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ajs6f

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I'd like to move the site.

+1!

> On 12/12/2018 15:25, ajs6f wrote:
>> I'm all in favor, and in favor of moving the site to git at the same time. 
>> Indeed, we've discussed that latter before, but done nothing.
>> Bruno-- I think you had some thoughts about the site question? I seem to 
>> remember that you did such a migration with another Apache project?
> 
> Wasn't one of the issues that CMS is tied to svn for publication? Or am I 
> misremembering?

I don't remember, which means nothing. :grin: It very well may be. See next 
point.

> If so, then then move needs the website converting (Jekyll?).

The last time we talked about this, that was an assumption (moving to a new 
build tool). I seem to recall that Bruno offered some experience from his work 
doing the same thing for another project.

> If that's true we could get a git repo for the new site, work on it as and 
> when, then swap the live site.
> 
> Does someone want to see this through?

I would, albeit _slowly_, if I knew anything about the prospective build tool, 
or if someone else who does can be available for a bit of help. 

>    Andy
> 
>> ajs6f
>>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/2018 17:19, Chris Tomlinson wrote:
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>> My GH and ASF accounts are linked. As I understand the note from D.Gruno 
>>>> once jena is moved to GB then we can use either GB or GH or both in our 
>>>> individual workflows. For me just working with GH would be my choice.
>>>> I’m not sure how far away 3.10.0 is (I’ve completed all of the pending 
>>>> jena-text updates for 3.10.0) but maybe it makes sense if that release can 
>>>> be completed prior to moving from git-wip-us without running into the 
>>>> forced move beginning on 7 Feb 2019.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to avoid a forced move, if nothing else, out of politeness to 
>>> INFRA because they asked nicely.
>>> 
>>>> It would also be helpful to see the docs moved from SVN to GH/GB so we 
>>>> have a single environment. I think I saw this discussed briefly some time 
>>>> ago but I don’t recall a resolution.
>>>> I agree that JIRA integration is key - it appears that it will continue 
>>>> since JIRA is used to control the migration from git-wip-us and svn.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chris
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Committers -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who has the link up for pushing to GH directly?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/ -> "Link GitHub and ASF accounts"
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/12/2018 16:11, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>>> I confess I don't completely understand the details/changes here
>>>>>> "either the ASF repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your 
>>>>>> development and code pushes"
>>>>>> unless you can mix-and-match, in case anyone does not want to forced to 
>>>>>> have a GH account. gitbox.apache.org says "will be granted write-access 
>>>>>> on both services (gitbox and github)" if you have your GH account linked 
>>>>>> to your Apache account (which I do).
>>>>>> The other unclarity is what happens about JIRA integration. We have 
>>>>>> managed to get people to use JIRA so whatever we may think about it at a 
>>>>>> technical level, we do have as a communication path.  The Q has been 
>>>>>> asked on the infra list but no response yet.  The text about either 
>>>>>> service sort of hints that that if there is an integration, it works on 
>>>>>> both access points.
>>>>>> JIRA is useful during a release to find changes since last time. 
>>>>>> Obviously, GH issues and labels can be used for that but we need to set 
>>>>>> that up. There again, a clearout of old dead stuff would not be so bad!
>>>>>> We have a release sometime soon (ish, maybe, whatever) and I think my 
>>>>>> only issue is controlling the switchover point in time, sooner is 
>>>>>> better, and otherwise we do it and see what happens.
>>>>>> For workflow, if we have to fix on one tailored to GH or gitbox.a.o, 
>>>>>> shall we go GH? If it's both, we can start being more GH on our own 
>>>>>> timescales.
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> Let's discuss for a few days and if nothing arises, run the vote.
>>>>>>     Andy
>>>>>> But please, not go back to SVN :-)
>>>>>> On 09/12/2018 20:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [IF YOUR PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE GIT REPOSITORIES ON GIT-WIP-US PLEASE
>>>>>>>    DISREGARD THIS EMAIL; IT WAS MASS-MAILED TO ALL APACHE PROJECTS]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Apache projects,
>>>>>>> I am writing to you because you may have git repositories on the
>>>>>>> git-wip-us server, which is slated to be decommissioned in the coming
>>>>>>> months. All repositories will be moved to the new gitbox service which
>>>>>>> includes direct write access on github as well as the standard ASF
>>>>>>> commit access via gitbox.apache.org.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ## Why this move? ##
>>>>>>> The move comes as a result of retiring the git-wip service, as the
>>>>>>> hardware it runs on is longing for retirement. In lieu of this, we
>>>>>>> have decided to consolidate the two services (git-wip and gitbox), to
>>>>>>> ease the management of our repository systems and future-proof the
>>>>>>> underlying hardware. The move is fully automated, and ideally, nothing
>>>>>>> will change in your workflow other than added features and access to
>>>>>>> GitHub.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ## Timeframe for relocation ##
>>>>>>> Initially, we are asking that projects voluntarily request to move
>>>>>>> their repositories to gitbox, hence this email. The voluntary
>>>>>>> timeframe is between now and January 9th 2019, during which projects
>>>>>>> are free to either move over to gitbox or stay put on git-wip. After
>>>>>>> this phase, we will be requiring the remaining projects to move within
>>>>>>> one month, after which we will move the remaining projects over.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To have your project moved in this initial phase, you will need:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Consensus in the project (documented via the mailing list)
>>>>>>> - File a JIRA ticket with INFRA to voluntarily move your project repos
>>>>>>>     over to gitbox (as stated, this is highly automated and will take
>>>>>>>     between a minute and an hour, depending on the size and number of
>>>>>>>     your repositories)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To sum up the preliminary timeline;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - December 9th 2018 -January 9th 2019: Voluntary (coordinated)
>>>>>>>     relocation
>>>>>>> - January 9th -February 6th: Mandated (coordinated) relocation
>>>>>>> - February 7th: All remaining repositories are mass migrated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This timeline may change to accommodate various scenarios.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ## Using GitHub with ASF repositories ##
>>>>>>> When your project has moved, you are free to use either the ASF
>>>>>>> repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your development
>>>>>>> and code pushes. To be able to use GitHub, please follow the primer
>>>>>>> at: https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We appreciate your understanding of this issue, and hope that your
>>>>>>> project can coordinate voluntarily moving your repositories in a
>>>>>>> timely manner.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All settings, such as commit mail targets, issue linking, PR
>>>>>>> notification schemes etc will automatically be migrated to gitbox as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With regards, Daniel on behalf of ASF Infra.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS:For inquiries, please reply to us...@infra.apache.org, not your
>>>>>>> project's dev list :-).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 

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