On 19 May 2015 at 19:40, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 19 May 2015 at 17:46, Vladimir Sitnikov <[email protected]
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>That is very different from promoting specific plugin providers in the
>> > JMeter documentation.
>> >
>> > As Philippe has already pointed out, j-p is already promoted right in
>> > the documentation:
>> > http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/boss.html#jmeter-plugins
>>
>> I had not noticed that.
>>
>> I think it is wrong and needs to be removed, along with any other 3rd
>> party references.
>> However the page can mention the Wiki.
>>
>> I don't agree with this.
> Core jmeter "lacks" today of:
> - Excellent reporting (until we implement one bugzilla for it)
> - Continuous integration plugin (like maven one)
> - Cloud open source ready solution

That's not relevant to this issue.

>
> This page tells users which plugins to use for this in the Open source
> field and for now only mentionned some kind of de facto standards.

Which is wrong, because there are other plugins.
We cannot favour one 3rd party over another.

> Besides, All implementors of these plugins are regular contributors of
> JMeter and I think they deserve a special mention.

Not really relevant.

> Furthermore there plugin follow jmeter releases and this is a good thing.

Again, not relevant.

> Regarding Wiki, today it is highly outdated in terms of content,

Go fix it then ...

> anybody can write anything meaning content is not really managed and 
> controlled by
> us.

That's partly the point, because it allows any 3rd party producer to
add a link to their product.

But we do have control over the content.
We can revert bad edits and revoke write access for people who don't play nice.

> Finally I find it personaly rather very slow and not sexy at all.

Again not relevant.

> Felix has build a nice RWD website and I spent some time updating the docs.
> All this to say that removing this page would kind of annoy me.

I'm sorry about that, but the content can be added to the new
JMeterPlugins page I just set up.
I should have vetoed the original commit, but I'm afraid I overlooked it.

> I think JMeter has a nice community that we need to preserve and make
> bigger, wether open source (not only Apache) or even commercial(which is
> not against Apache policy from my understanding).

Fine, but we still cannot favour some 3rd parties over others.

> We are all aware that we have a huge work to do on JMeter and the more we
> are the better it is.

Again not relevant.

> Regards
> Philippe
>
>
>> Vladimir
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

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