that would be great so long as we can summarize the results of the hangout to the list.
Thanks Henry ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" <dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" <dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2016 and Joshua >I will actually be at the Apache Big Data, I think it is happening before >ApacheCon. >If anyone also coming for that conference, definitely looking forward to >meet. > >Would love to meet to what's next for Joshua, especially under ASF. > >My current interest is similar to what Matt mentioned, to replace Moses >components as independent distribution/ release. > >Maybe we could do Google hangout to every 2-weeks to sync up on progress >and community? > >- Henry > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >> awesome sounds like critical mass is happening for Joshua meet up >> at ApacheCon. My own schedule is in flux - if I come it may only be >> for a day so I’ll keep the troops posted. >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Chief Architect >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >> Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" >> <dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org> >> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:34 AM >> To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" <dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2016 and Joshua >> >> >I'm off to ApacheCon, but I'm far less interesting. I don't pretend to >> >understand how any of it works, but as lewis will explain, I like >>platform >> >evangalism, demoing tech to "non standard" users and other bits and >> >pieces. >> >Plus I can code a bit if someone points me in the right direction :) >> > >> >From a personal perspective I find the tech interesting which is half >>the >> >reason I threw my hat in the ring, from an employment perspective, >>some of >> >my "business" clients would find "offline" translation that doesn't >>rely >> >on >> >big vendor API's useful, also we have done work with the UK Armed >>Forces >> >who could do with this type of stuff for translation of intelligence >> >material gathered from the field and requiring processing. >> > >> >Tom >> > >> >On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Matt Post <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote: >> > >> >> Whoa! Lewis, can you give some more detail on this talk, what you >> >> proposed, and what you plan to talk about? >> >> >> >> I haven't ever been to ApacheCon, but am interested in going. I don't >> >>have >> >> much of a feel for what motivates folks outside the academic research >> >> community, and that would be good to have in laying out projects that >> >>might >> >> interest people. >> >> >> >> Regarding those project, I have a number of them. Perhaps it would be >> >> useful to flesh them out with some more detail, and perhaps post >>them, >> >>for >> >> those who are interested. First, with respect to Tommaso's question, >>the >> >> following: >> >> >> >> - Use cases. I'd really like to push machine translation as a black >>box, >> >> where people can download and use models, not caring how they work, >>and >> >> building on top of them. I think this could be transformative. I've >>just >> >> added to Joshua the ability to add, store, and manage custom phrasal >> >> translation rules, which would let people take a model and add their >>own >> >> translations on top of it, perhaps correcting mistakes as they >>encounter >> >> them. There's a JSON API for it (undocumented). >> >> >> >> Building this up would also require pulling together lots of >>different >> >> test sets, evaluating changes, and so on. >> >> >> >> - Neural nets. This is a huge research area. I think the advantages >>are >> >> that it could enable releasing models that are much smaller. >>However, on >> >> the down side, it's not clear what the best way to integrate these >> >>models >> >> into Joshua is. Fully neural attention models would require >> >>re-architecting >> >> Joshua, as they are essentially a new paradigm. Adding neural >> >>components as >> >> feature functions that interact with the existing decoding algorithm >> >>would >> >> be an intermediate step. >> >> >> >> For other projects, I'd love: >> >> >> >> - Better documentation, developer and end-user (probably I need to >> >>write a >> >> lot of this; if nothing else, it would be hugely useful to me in >>terms >> >>of >> >> prioritizing to know that people want it) >> >> >> >> - Rewriting certain components. The tuning modules, in particular, >>are a >> >> real mess, and should be synthesized and improved. >> >> >> >> - Replacing Moses components. Joshua can call out to Moses to build >> >>phrase >> >> tables; it would be nice to get rid of this (and wouldn't be that >>hard) >> >> with our own Java implementations. It would also be good to add a >> >> lexicalized distortion model to the phrase-based decoder. >> >> >> >> matt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mar 14, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney < >> >> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi Kellen, >> >> > I'll be there for sure. I actually had a talk accepted which is an >> >>entire >> >> > overview of Joshua and will probably touch on what the roadmap is >> >>through >> >> > incubation and beyond. >> >> > In short I look forward to tagging up with you and any others are >>Ho >> >>will >> >> > be there/we can interest in the project. >> >> > A side note here is that more projects and talks at ApacheCon are >> >> becoming >> >> > increasingly relevant for science and healthcare so I hope we can >>do a >> >> real >> >> > justice to Joshua by undertaking a driven community building effort >> >> > @ApacheCon. >> >> > This being said, let's hash out here some objectives, must haves, >> >>would >> >> > likes, roadmap, etc if you like. >> >> > Thanks for brining this topic up. >> >> > Lewis >> >> > >> >> > On Monday, March 14, 2016, Tommaso Teofili >><tommaso.teof...@gmail.com >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Kellen, >> >> >> >> >> >> I won't be at ApacheCon unfortunately, however your idea sounds >>good >> >>if >> >> >> there's anyone else joining. >> >> >> Perhaps we can also discuss some of the topics you mention here on >> >>the >> >> >> list, and maybe that would be of help for f2f chats too. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd particularly interested in discussing: >> >> >> - use cases >> >> >> - ideas around usage of neural networks for MT >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Tommaso >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Il giorno lun 14 mar 2016 alle ore 12:30 kellen sunderland < >> >> >> kellen.sunderl...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> ha scritto: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hello Joshua fans, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I was wondering how many Joshua/Apache folks are going to be at >> >> ApacheCon >> >> >>> in May. I was hoping if there's enough of us we could get >>together >> >>and >> >> >>> chat about development ideas for Joshua, discuss each others use >> >>cases, >> >> >>> etc. I know that I for one would love to sync up on how the >> >> development >> >> >>> model for the project will work in the future. Maybe ApacheCon >> >>would >> >> be >> >> >> a >> >> >>> good opportunity to chat face to face. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -Kellen Sunderland >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > *Lewis* >> >> >> >> >> >>
