+1 for the idea.

I think most ASF projects with github integration have similar approach.

- Henry

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hey Matt,
>
> To be clear, I’m asking for input on a name amongst those choices.
>
> Also, we shouldn’t be archiving emails so we forget about them.
> The point is the conversation for the project should happen here
> and if it’s dev relevant conversation then it should be something
> that those that don’t have the advantage of operating at GitHub
> and believing that’s the home for the project still have a chance
> to participate by sending mails and participating in the conversation
> for the project, here.
>
> That said, I think there’s a simple solution:
>
> 1) stand up new list (we can use the mlreq program here, once
> we agree on the name)
> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/
>
>
> 2) file INFRA JIRA ticket and have ASF GitHub bot send communication
> to list from #1
>
> Make sense? Agree?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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> On 5/26/16, 11:23 AM, "Matt Post" <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote:
>
> >Chris, to be clear, are you asking for input on a name, or suggesting
> creating all three lists?
> >
> >The main issue I'm concerned with is that comments on Github generate
> three emails:
> >
> >- Github sends an email to dev
> >- If the comment is on a pull that matches a JIRA issue, the ASF Github
> bot sends an email to me
> >- It also sends the same email to dev
> >
> >I think we should just (a) tell Github to stop posting to dev and (b)
> tell the ASF Github bot to send everything to commits. We could create a
> new list, but there's some complexity in maintaining lists themselves, and
> it seems that commits would be a good place to bury things and forget about
> them.
> >
> >Would that satisfy the archiving goals? Who can do this? I don't seem to
> have Github permission on incubator-joshua to do (a), and I don't know how
> to do (b).
> >
> >matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 26, 2016, at 11:34 AM, kellen sunderland <
> kellen.sunderl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd +1 as well.  Your breakdown looks good to me Chris.
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
> >> chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 to a separate list for GitHub stuff. Many communities (Kudu,
> >>> Spark, etc.) end up doing this.
> >>>
> >>> How about:
> >>>
> >>> revi...@joshua.incubator.apache.org
> >>> git...@joshua.incubator.apache.org
> >>> iss...@joshua.incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Any of those?
> >>>
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>> Chief Architect
> >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
> >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
> >>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
> >>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/26/16, 6:00 AM, "Matt Post" <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I agree it's good to have Github stuff archived on Apache-owned
> domains,
> >>> I just think that the list gets overwhelmed with garbage that most
> people
> >>> are just deleting. I mean, I like the idea of skimming through
> commits, but
> >>> today I am waking up to over 100 emails, and I have to pick out the
> >>> auto-generated emails that I don't have time to read from the important
> >>> ones. If most people are just saving things to a separate folder, that
> they
> >>> are never going to read, isn't it better to turn off those auto-emails?
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not use a separate list like git@ or archive@ for such posts?
> Then
> >>> it's there for people to search, but no one has to wade through it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 12:45 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> >>> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Matt,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As Henry said. Either we get them going to a different list or else
> you
> >>>>> subscribe to dev-dig...@joshua.incubator.apache.org (subscribe
> through
> >>>>> dev-digest-subscr...@joshua.incubator.apache.org)?
> >>>>> Which do you prefer?
> >>>>> Quick reasoning as to why Github convo is shadowed on the Apache
> lists.
> >>> If
> >>>>> Github ever goes away, then we loose all of the conversation. We
> >>> archive it
> >>>>> @Apache so we cover our communities.
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:11 PM, <
> >>>>> dev-digest-h...@joshua.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Matt Post <p...@cs.jhu.edu>
> >>>>>> To: dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>> Cc:
> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 15:48:24 -0400
> >>>>>> Subject: too many emails
> >>>>>> Does someone know how to turn off the mailing of all github
> comments to
> >>>>>> dev?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The way I see it, we all have to be on dev, so it should be for
> people,
> >>>>>> not robots. I am getting every comment about three times.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would just do it but I don't know how.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>

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