+1 for the idea. I think most ASF projects with github integration have similar approach.
- Henry On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hey Matt, > > To be clear, I’m asking for input on a name amongst those choices. > > Also, we shouldn’t be archiving emails so we forget about them. > The point is the conversation for the project should happen here > and if it’s dev relevant conversation then it should be something > that those that don’t have the advantage of operating at GitHub > and believing that’s the home for the project still have a chance > to participate by sending mails and participating in the conversation > for the project, here. > > That said, I think there’s a simple solution: > > 1) stand up new list (we can use the mlreq program here, once > we agree on the name) > https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/ > > > 2) file INFRA JIRA ticket and have ASF GitHub bot send communication > to list from #1 > > Make sense? Agree? > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Chief Architect > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > On 5/26/16, 11:23 AM, "Matt Post" <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote: > > >Chris, to be clear, are you asking for input on a name, or suggesting > creating all three lists? > > > >The main issue I'm concerned with is that comments on Github generate > three emails: > > > >- Github sends an email to dev > >- If the comment is on a pull that matches a JIRA issue, the ASF Github > bot sends an email to me > >- It also sends the same email to dev > > > >I think we should just (a) tell Github to stop posting to dev and (b) > tell the ASF Github bot to send everything to commits. We could create a > new list, but there's some complexity in maintaining lists themselves, and > it seems that commits would be a good place to bury things and forget about > them. > > > >Would that satisfy the archiving goals? Who can do this? I don't seem to > have Github permission on incubator-joshua to do (a), and I don't know how > to do (b). > > > >matt > > > > > > > > > >> On May 26, 2016, at 11:34 AM, kellen sunderland < > kellen.sunderl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I'd +1 as well. Your breakdown looks good to me Chris. > >> > >> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >> chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >> > >>> +1 to a separate list for GitHub stuff. Many communities (Kudu, > >>> Spark, etc.) end up doing this. > >>> > >>> How about: > >>> > >>> revi...@joshua.incubator.apache.org > >>> git...@joshua.incubator.apache.org > >>> iss...@joshua.incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> Any of those? > >>> > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > >>> Chief Architect > >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > >>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > >>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > >>> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/26/16, 6:00 AM, "Matt Post" <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I agree it's good to have Github stuff archived on Apache-owned > domains, > >>> I just think that the list gets overwhelmed with garbage that most > people > >>> are just deleting. I mean, I like the idea of skimming through > commits, but > >>> today I am waking up to over 100 emails, and I have to pick out the > >>> auto-generated emails that I don't have time to read from the important > >>> ones. If most people are just saving things to a separate folder, that > they > >>> are never going to read, isn't it better to turn off those auto-emails? > >>>> > >>>> Why not use a separate list like git@ or archive@ for such posts? > Then > >>> it's there for people to search, but no one has to wade through it. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 12:45 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney < > >>> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Matt, > >>>>> > >>>>> As Henry said. Either we get them going to a different list or else > you > >>>>> subscribe to dev-dig...@joshua.incubator.apache.org (subscribe > through > >>>>> dev-digest-subscr...@joshua.incubator.apache.org)? > >>>>> Which do you prefer? > >>>>> Quick reasoning as to why Github convo is shadowed on the Apache > lists. > >>> If > >>>>> Github ever goes away, then we loose all of the conversation. We > >>> archive it > >>>>> @Apache so we cover our communities. > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:11 PM, < > >>>>> dev-digest-h...@joshua.incubator.apache.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: Matt Post <p...@cs.jhu.edu> > >>>>>> To: dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> Cc: > >>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 15:48:24 -0400 > >>>>>> Subject: too many emails > >>>>>> Does someone know how to turn off the mailing of all github > comments to > >>>>>> dev? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The way I see it, we all have to be on dev, so it should be for > people, > >>>>>> not robots. I am getting every comment about three times. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would just do it but I don't know how. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > > >