Hey Satish

I filed a PR to fix the website formatting bug in 3.6 documentation -
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14419
Please take a look when you get a chance.

--
Divij Vaidya

On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:36 PM Chris Egerton <chr...@aiven.io.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi Satish,
>
> I think this qualifies as a blocker. This API has been around for years now
> and, while we don't document it as not exposing duplicates*, it has come
> with that implicit contract since its inception. More importantly, it has
> also never exposed plugins that cannot be used on the worker. This change
> in behavior not only introduces duplicates*, it causes unreachable plugins
> to be displayed. With this in mind, it seems to qualify pretty clearly as a
> regression and we should not put out a release that includes it.
>
> * - Really, these aren't duplicates; rather, they're multiple copies of the
> same plugin that come from different locations on the worker
>
> Best,
>
> Chris
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:31 AM Satish Duggana <satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Greg,
> > Is this API documented that it does not return duplicate entries?
> >
> > Can we also get an opinion from PMC/Committers who have KafkaConnect
> > expertise on whether this issue is a release blocker?
> >
> > If we agree that it is not a release blocker then we can have a
> > release note clarifying this behaviour and add a reference to the JIRA
> > that follows up on the possible solutions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Satish.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 03:29, Greg Harris <greg.har...@aiven.io.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Satish,
> > >
> > > After investigating further, I believe that this is a regression, but
> > > mostly a cosmetic one.
> > > I don't think there is significant risk of breaking clients with this
> > > change, but it would be confusing for users, so I'd still like to get
> > > the fix into the next RC.
> > > I've opened a PR here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14398 and
> > > I'll work to get it merged promptly.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 11:54 AM Greg Harris <greg.har...@aiven.io>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Satish,
> > > >
> > > > While validating 3.6.0-rc0, I noticed this regression as compared to
> > > > 3.5.1: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15473
> > > >
> > > > Impact: The `connector-plugins` endpoint lists duplicates which may
> > > > cause confusion for users, or poor behavior in clients.
> > > > Using the other REST API endpoints appears unaffected.
> > > > I'll open a PR for this later today.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 11:56 AM Satish Duggana
> > > > <satish.dugg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Justine for the update. I saw in the morning that these
> > changes
> > > > > are pushed to trunk and 3.6.
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 21:54, Justine Olshan
> > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > We were able to merge
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15459 yesterday
> > > > > > and pick to 3.6.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully nothing more from me on this release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Justine
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 9:51 PM Satish Duggana <
> > satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Luke for the update.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 07:29, Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since this PR:
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14366 only changes the
> > doc, I've
> > > > > > > > backported to 3.6 branch. FYI.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:15 AM Justine Olshan
> > > > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hey Satish -- yes, you are correct. KAFKA-15459 only affects
> > 3.6.
> > > > > > > > > PR should be finalized soon.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 1:41 AM Federico Valeri <
> > fedeval...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish, this is a small documentation fix about ZK to
> > KRaft
> > > > > > > > > > migration, that we would like to backport to 3.5 and 3.6
> > branches.
> > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > you ok with that?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14366
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:13 AM Satish Duggana <
> > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks David for the quick resolution.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 22:51, David Arthur
> > > > > > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > KAFKA-15450 is merged to 3.6 (as well as trunk, 3.5,
> > and 3.4)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:44 AM Ismael Juma <
> > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Justine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably best to have the conversation in the JIRA
> > ticket vs
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thread. Generally, we want to only include low risk
> > bug fixes
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fully compatible in patch releases.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:16 AM Justine Olshan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Satish. I understand.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious, is this something that could be
> > added to
> > > > > > > 3.6.1? It
> > > > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice to say that hanging transactions are fully
> > covered in a
> > > > > > > 3.6
> > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not as familiar with the rules around minor
> > releases, but
> > > > > > > > > > adding it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there would give more time to ensure stability.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:49 AM Satish Duggana <
> > > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Justine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can skip this change into 3.6 now as it is
> > not a
> > > > > > > blocker or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regression and it involves changes to the API
> > > > > > > implementation.
> > > > > > > > > > Let us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plan to add the gap in the release notes as you
> > mentioned.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 04:44, Justine Olshan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We just discovered a gap in KIP-890 part 1. We
> > currently
> > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > verify
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > txn offset commits, so it is still possible to
> > have
> > > > > > > hanging
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > transactions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the consumer offsets partitions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've opened a jira to wire the verification in
> > that
> > > > > > > request.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15449
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also isn't a regression, but it would be
> > nice to
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > part 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complete. I have opened a PR with the fix:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14370.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand if there are concerns about last
> > minute
> > > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > to this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > API
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we can hold off if that makes the most
> > sense.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we take that route, I think we should still
> > keep
> > > > > > > > > > verification for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > data partitions since it still provides full
> > protection
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improves
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transactions experience. We will need to
> > call out
> > > > > > > the gap
> > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release notes for consumer offsets partitions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM David Arthur
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another (small) ZK migration issue was
> > identified.
> > > > > > > This one
> > > > > > > > > > isn't a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regression (it has existed since 3.4), but I
> > think it's
> > > > > > > > > > reasonable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > include. It's a small configuration check
> > that could
> > > > > > > > > > potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > save
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users from some headaches down the line.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15450
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14367
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can get this one committed to
> > trunk today.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM Ismael Juma <
> > > > > > > > > > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds great. I think we should aim
> > to only
> > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > blockers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (regressions, impactful security issues,
> > etc.) on
> > > > > > > the 3.6
> > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > until
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.6.0 is out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023, 12:20 AM Satish
> > Duggana <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ismael,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like we will publish RC0 by
> > 14th Sep.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 19:23, Ismael
> > Juma <
> > > > > > > > > > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a sense of when we'll
> > publish RC0?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 6:27 AM David
> > Arthur
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quick update on my two blockers:
> > KAFKA-15435 is
> > > > > > > > > > merged to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trunk and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked to 3.6. I have a PR
> > open for
> > > > > > > > > > KAFKA-15441 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hopefully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get it merged today.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 5:26 AM Ivan
> > Yurchenko <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i...@ivanyu.me>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish and all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14993
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > included in the 3.6 release plan.
> > I'm
> > > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > > > > > that when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented, it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be a small, but still a
> > change in the
> > > > > > > RSM
> > > > > > > > > > contract:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exception instead of returning an
> > empty
> > > > > > > > > > InputStream.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > included right away to save the
> > migration
> > > > > > > later?
> > > > > > > > > > What do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ivan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, at 02:52,
> > Satish Duggana
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jose,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for looking into this
> > issue and
> > > > > > > > > resolving
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 21:40,
> > José Armando
> > > > > > > > > García
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sancio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 4:58 PM
> > Satish
> > > > > > > > > Duggana <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14273
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there in 3.5.x too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also agree that it should be
> > a blocker
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > 3.6.0.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been a blocker for those
> > previous
> > > > > > > releases. I
> > > > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfortunately, I wasn't aware
> > of the
> > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > jira.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll create a PR with a fix in
> > case the
> > > > > > > > > > original
> > > > > > > > > > > > > author
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respond in time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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