Thanks Divij for raising a PR for doc formatting issue.

On Thu, 21 Sep, 2023, 2:22 PM Divij Vaidya, <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Satish
>
> I filed a PR to fix the website formatting bug in 3.6 documentation -
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14419
> Please take a look when you get a chance.
>
> --
> Divij Vaidya
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:36 PM Chris Egerton <chr...@aiven.io.invalid>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Satish,
> >
> > I think this qualifies as a blocker. This API has been around for years
> now
> > and, while we don't document it as not exposing duplicates*, it has come
> > with that implicit contract since its inception. More importantly, it has
> > also never exposed plugins that cannot be used on the worker. This change
> > in behavior not only introduces duplicates*, it causes unreachable
> plugins
> > to be displayed. With this in mind, it seems to qualify pretty clearly
> as a
> > regression and we should not put out a release that includes it.
> >
> > * - Really, these aren't duplicates; rather, they're multiple copies of
> the
> > same plugin that come from different locations on the worker
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:31 AM Satish Duggana <satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Greg,
> > > Is this API documented that it does not return duplicate entries?
> > >
> > > Can we also get an opinion from PMC/Committers who have KafkaConnect
> > > expertise on whether this issue is a release blocker?
> > >
> > > If we agree that it is not a release blocker then we can have a
> > > release note clarifying this behaviour and add a reference to the JIRA
> > > that follows up on the possible solutions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Satish.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 03:29, Greg Harris
> <greg.har...@aiven.io.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Satish,
> > > >
> > > > After investigating further, I believe that this is a regression, but
> > > > mostly a cosmetic one.
> > > > I don't think there is significant risk of breaking clients with this
> > > > change, but it would be confusing for users, so I'd still like to get
> > > > the fix into the next RC.
> > > > I've opened a PR here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14398
> and
> > > > I'll work to get it merged promptly.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 11:54 AM Greg Harris <greg.har...@aiven.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > >
> > > > > While validating 3.6.0-rc0, I noticed this regression as compared
> to
> > > > > 3.5.1: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15473
> > > > >
> > > > > Impact: The `connector-plugins` endpoint lists duplicates which may
> > > > > cause confusion for users, or poor behavior in clients.
> > > > > Using the other REST API endpoints appears unaffected.
> > > > > I'll open a PR for this later today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 11:56 AM Satish Duggana
> > > > > <satish.dugg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Justine for the update. I saw in the morning that these
> > > changes
> > > > > > are pushed to trunk and 3.6.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 21:54, Justine Olshan
> > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > We were able to merge
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15459 yesterday
> > > > > > > and pick to 3.6.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hopefully nothing more from me on this release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 9:51 PM Satish Duggana <
> > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks Luke for the update.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 07:29, Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Since this PR:
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14366 only changes
> the
> > > doc, I've
> > > > > > > > > backported to 3.6 branch. FYI.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:15 AM Justine Olshan
> > > > > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hey Satish -- yes, you are correct. KAFKA-15459 only
> affects
> > > 3.6.
> > > > > > > > > > PR should be finalized soon.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 1:41 AM Federico Valeri <
> > > fedeval...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish, this is a small documentation fix about ZK
> to
> > > KRaft
> > > > > > > > > > > migration, that we would like to backport to 3.5 and
> 3.6
> > > branches.
> > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > you ok with that?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14366
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:13 AM Satish Duggana <
> > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks David for the quick resolution.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 22:51, David Arthur
> > > > > > > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > KAFKA-15450 is merged to 3.6 (as well as trunk,
> 3.5,
> > > and 3.4)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:44 AM Ismael Juma <
> > > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably best to have the conversation in the
> JIRA
> > > ticket vs
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread. Generally, we want to only include low
> risk
> > > bug fixes
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully compatible in patch releases.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:16 AM Justine Olshan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Satish. I understand.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious, is this something that could be
> > > added to
> > > > > > > > 3.6.1? It
> > > > > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice to say that hanging transactions are fully
> > > covered in a
> > > > > > > > 3.6
> > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not as familiar with the rules around minor
> > > releases, but
> > > > > > > > > > > adding it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there would give more time to ensure stability.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:49 AM Satish Duggana
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Justine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can skip this change into 3.6 now as it is
> > > not a
> > > > > > > > blocker or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regression and it involves changes to the API
> > > > > > > > implementation.
> > > > > > > > > > > Let us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plan to add the gap in the release notes as
> you
> > > mentioned.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 04:44, Justine Olshan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We just discovered a gap in KIP-890 part
> 1. We
> > > currently
> > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > verify
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > txn offset commits, so it is still
> possible to
> > > have
> > > > > > > > hanging
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transactions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the consumer offsets partitions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've opened a jira to wire the
> verification in
> > > that
> > > > > > > > request.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15449
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also isn't a regression, but it would
> be
> > > nice to
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > part 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complete. I have opened a PR with the fix:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14370
> .
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand if there are concerns about
> last
> > > minute
> > > > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > > to this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > API
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we can hold off if that makes the most
> > > sense.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we take that route, I think we should
> still
> > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > verification for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > data partitions since it still provides
> full
> > > protection
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improves
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transactions experience. We will need
> to
> > > call out
> > > > > > > > the gap
> > > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release notes for consumer offsets
> partitions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM David
> Arthur
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another (small) ZK migration issue was
> > > identified.
> > > > > > > > This one
> > > > > > > > > > > isn't a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regression (it has existed since 3.4),
> but I
> > > think it's
> > > > > > > > > > > reasonable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > include. It's a small configuration check
> > > that could
> > > > > > > > > > > potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > save
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users from some headaches down the line.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15450
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14367
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can get this one committed to
> > > trunk today.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM Ismael
> Juma <
> > > > > > > > > > > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds great. I think we should
> aim
> > > to only
> > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > blockers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (regressions, impactful security
> issues,
> > > etc.) on
> > > > > > > > the 3.6
> > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > until
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.6.0 is out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023, 12:20 AM Satish
> > > Duggana <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ismael,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like we will publish RC0 by
> > > 14th Sep.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 19:23, Ismael
> > > Juma <
> > > > > > > > > > > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a sense of when we'll
> > > publish RC0?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 6:27 AM
> David
> > > Arthur
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io
> .invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quick update on my two blockers:
> > > KAFKA-15435 is
> > > > > > > > > > > merged to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trunk and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked to 3.6. I have a PR
> > > open for
> > > > > > > > > > > KAFKA-15441 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hopefully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get it merged today.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 5:26 AM
> Ivan
> > > Yurchenko <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i...@ivanyu.me>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish and all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14993
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > included in the 3.6 release
> plan.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > > > > > > that when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented, it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be a small, but still a
> > > change in the
> > > > > > > > RSM
> > > > > > > > > > > contract:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exception instead of returning
> an
> > > empty
> > > > > > > > > > > InputStream.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > included right away to save the
> > > migration
> > > > > > > > later?
> > > > > > > > > > > What do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ivan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, at 02:52,
> > > Satish Duggana
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jose,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for looking into this
> > > issue and
> > > > > > > > > > resolving
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 21:40,
> > > José Armando
> > > > > > > > > > García
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sancio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at
> 4:58 PM
> > > Satish
> > > > > > > > > > Duggana <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14273
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there in 3.5.x too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also agree that it
> should be
> > > a blocker
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > 3.6.0.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been a blocker for those
> > > previous
> > > > > > > > releases. I
> > > > > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfortunately, I wasn't
> aware
> > > of the
> > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > jira.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll create a PR with a
> fix in
> > > case the
> > > > > > > > > > > original
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > author
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respond in time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish, do you agree?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -José
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
>

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