I should also clarify that Chia-Ping  took it over from me originally and
improved the proposal significantly. I think he also got busy and hasn't
been able to spend time on it for a while though.

Ismael

On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 4:08 PM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com> wrote:

> I had written a KIP a while back:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=100829459
>
> Happy for someone to pick it up and drive it forward.
>
> Ismael
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 2:00 PM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks --
>>  I think this is a good conversation. Given we plan to drop support for
>> Java 8 in 4.0 this seems like a good time to consider this change. Perhaps
>> we should file a JIRA ticket and maybe create a KIP to discuss?
>>
>> One thing we should consider however, is if we want some of these
>> operations to be asynchronous. I know I got into some tricky areas of
>> Kafka
>> recently that assumed operations completed in a given order so it is good
>> to confirm such changes are safe.
>>
>> Looking forward to further discussion,
>> Justine
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 1:14 PM Philip Nee <philip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > hey sean - a lot of uses of the Futures are in the public API and
>> therefore
>> > take voting/effort to be changed.  i don't know any reason for
>> > intentionally avoiding the use of CompletableFuture, however, others
>> might
>> > know more than I do.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > P
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 1:27 AM 신수웅(Sean Sin) <working...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Apache Kakfa Developers,
>> > >
>> > > I'm 4-year SWE in South Korea.
>> > > I have some questions while watching Kafka Producer API.
>> > >
>> > > *Why Use "Future" and Not "CompletableFuture"?*
>> > >
>> > > In the case of "Future", blocking occurs when calling "*get()*", so I
>> > > thought "Computable Future" would be better when doing more
>> asynchronous
>> > > operations.
>> > >
>> > > I looked at the Java API document
>> > > <
>> > >
>> >
>> https://kafka.apache.org/36/javadoc/org/apache/kafka/common/KafkaFuture.html#thenApply(org.apache.kafka.common.KafkaFuture.BaseFunction)
>> > > >
>> > > based on the latest version, version 3.6.x.
>> > >
>> > > If you look at that version, you can see that the Future object
>> provides
>> > > the "toCompletionStage() "method, which can convert "KafkaFuture" to
>> > > "ComputableFuture".
>> > >
>> > > In response to this, I think that in the initial design decision
>> process,
>> > > we considered compatibility issues under JDK 1.8 and the level of
>> > knowledge
>> > > of the learning curve or developer when introducing ComputableFuture,
>> > but I
>> > > wonder if this is correct.
>> > >
>> > > In addition, I wonder if it is recommended to use the
>> > "toCompletionStage()"
>> > > method to produce more non-blocking if we assume JDK 1.8 or higher.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > > Su-Ung Shin.
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

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