Hey all, happy new year.

Thanks for the heads up Almog. Makes sense.

To give an update - I haven't been able to resolve the gradlewAll publish
failure, and as such haven't been able to release an RC.
As a minor barrier, I have to also update the year in the NOTICE file,
otherwise the release script won't let me continue -
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/15111

Me and Apoorv synced offline and ran a few tests to debug the issue
regarding the clients build. I successfully executed `publish` when
pointing toward a custom jfrog repo with both JDK 8 and 17. Inspecting the
debug logs, the task that previously failed
`:clients:publishMavenJavaPublicationToMavenRepository'` passed
successfully. Here's a sample of the logs -
https://gist.github.com/stanislavkozlovski/841060cb467ec1d179cc9f293c8702e7

Having read the release.py script a few times, I am not able to see what is
different in the setup there. It simply clones the repo anew, gets the 3.7
branch and runs the same command.

At this point, I am contemplating pushing a commit to 3.7 that modifies the
release.py file that enables debug on the command:
diff --git a/release.py b/release.py
index 43c5809861..e299e10e74 100755
--- a/release.py
+++ b/release.py
@@ -675,7 +675,7 @@ with
open(os.path.expanduser("~/.gradle/gradle.properties")) as f:
     contents = f.read()
 if not user_ok("Going to build and upload mvn artifacts based on these
settings:\n" + contents + '\nOK (y/n)?: '):
     fail("Retry again later")
-cmd("Building and uploading archives", "./gradlewAll publish",
cwd=kafka_dir, env=jdk8_env, shell=True)
+cmd("Building and uploading archives", "./gradlewAll publish --debug",
cwd=kafka_dir, env=jdk8_env, shell=True)
 cmd("Building and uploading archives", "mvn deploy -Pgpg-signing",
cwd=streams_quickstart_dir, env=jdk8_env, shell=True)

 release_notification_props = { 'release_version': release_version,
(END)

and continuing to debug through that.

Since the release.py script grabs a new copy of origin, we have to modify
upstream. An alternative is for me to use my local github Kafka repo, but
that may result in the script pushing a build of that into the remote
servers.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 8:17 PM Almog Gavra <almog.ga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Stan,
>
> I wanted to give you a heads up that
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/15073 (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16046) was identified as a
> blocker regression and should be merged to trunk by EOD.
>
> Cheers,
> Almog
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 4:20 AM Stanislav Kozlovski
> <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi Apoorv,
> >
> > Thanks for taking ownership and looking into this! One more caveat is
> that
> > I believe this first publish is ran with JDK 8, as the release.py runs
> with
> > both JDK 8 and (if I recall correctly) 17 versions. This seems to fail on
> > the first one - so JDK 8.
> > Not sure if that is related in any way. And I'm also not sure if it
> should
> > be kafka-clients or just clients.
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 10:48 AM Apoorv Mittal <apoorvmitta...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stan,
> > > Thanks for looking into the release. I worked with `./gradlewAll
> > > publishToMavenLocal` which generates the respective `kafka-clients.jar`
> > > and deploys to maven local, I believed that `./gradlewAll publish`
> should
> > > just publish the artifacts to remote repository and hence should always
> > > work as jars successfully gets deployed to local maven.
> > >
> > > Though now I set up the remote private maven repository for myself (on
> > > jfrog) and tried `./gradlewAll publish` on the 3.7 branch and
> > > successfully completed the build with all artifacts uploaded to the
> > remote
> > > repository. What seems strange to me is the error you mentioned in the
> > > previous email regarding the reference of the clients jar. I suppose
> the
> > > reference should be to `kafka-clients.jar` rather than `clients.jar`, I
> > > might be missing if something else gets triggered in the release
> > pipeline.
> > > Do you think I should set up the remote repository as per the
> > instructions
> > > in `release.py` and try running `./release.py` as that might do
> something
> > > different, though I suspect that it should?
> > >
> > > [image: Screenshot 2023-12-30 at 9.33.42 AM.png]
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Apoorv Mittal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 2:13 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just to update this thread, everything in KAFKA-14127 is done now. A
> few
> > >> tasks got moved to a separate umbrella JIRA.
> > >>
> > >> Some folks are going to do more testing, both manual and automated, in
> > >> the next week or two. I think this will give us a good indicator of
> > >> stability and what we need to fix.
> > >>
> > >> Right now I'm leaning towards just making it GA since that's how most
> > >> features work. It's kind of rare for us to do a multi-step rollout for
> > new
> > >> features.
> > >>
> > >> best,
> > >> Colin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, at 03:43, Mickael Maison wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > With the current timeline for 3.7, I tend to agree with Viktor that
> > >> > JBOD support in KRaft is unlikely to receive the extensive testing
> > >> > this feature needs before releasing. And that's not counting the
> > >> > testing tasks left to do in
> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14127.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm fine sticking to the current 3.7 timeline but I'd err on the
> safe
> > >> > side and mark JBOD as early access to avoid major issues. Kafka is
> > >> > known for its robustness and resiliency and we certainly don't want
> to
> > >> > lose the trust we gained over years.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Mickael
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:24 AM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hi Viktor,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Extending the code freeze doesn't help stabilize things. If we have
> > >> >> important bugs for JBOD, we should mark those as blockers and we'll
> > >> wait
> > >> >> until they are fixed if the fixes won't take too long (as usual).
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ismael
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:58 AM Viktor Somogyi-Vass
> > >> >> <viktor.somo...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi all,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I was wondering what people think about extending the code freeze
> > >> date to
> > >> >> > early January?
> > >> >> > The reason I'm asking is that there are still a couple of testing
> > >> gaps in
> > >> >> > JBOD (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14127) which I
> > >> think is
> > >> >> > very important to finish to ensure a high quality release (after
> > all
> > >> this
> > >> >> > supposed to be the last 3.x) and secondly the year end holidays
> for
> > >> many
> > >> >> > people are coming fast, which means we'll likely have less people
> > >> working
> > >> >> > on testing and validation. In my opinion it would strengthen the
> > >> release if
> > >> >> > we could spend a week in January to really finish off JBOD and
> do a
> > >> 2 week
> > >> >> > stabilization.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What do you all think?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Best,
> > >> >> > Viktor
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 2:59 PM Stanislav Kozlovski
> > >> >> > <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > Hey!
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Just notifying everybody on this thread that I have cut the 3.7
> > >> branch
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > > sent a new email thread titled "New Release Branch 3.7" to the
> > >> mailing
> > >> >> > list
> > >> >> > > <
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/4j87m12fm3bgq01fgphtkfb41s56w6hh
> > >> >.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Best,
> > >> >> > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 11:10 AM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > >> >> > > stanis...@confluent.io>
> > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > Hello again,
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Time is flying by! It is feature freeze day!
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > By today, we expect to have major features merged and to
> begin
> > >> working
> > >> >> > on
> > >> >> > > > their stabilisation. Minor features should have PRs.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I am planning to cut the release branch soon - on Monday EU
> > >> daytime.
> > >> >> > When
> > >> >> > > > I do that, I will create a new e-mail thread titled "New
> > release
> > >> branch
> > >> >> > > > 3.7.0" to notify you, so be on the lookout for that. I will
> > also
> > >> notify
> > >> >> > > > this thread.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Thank you for your contributions. Let's get this release
> > shipped!
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 6:11 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > >> >> > > > stanis...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >> Hey all,
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> The KIP Freeze has passed. I count 31 KIPs that will be
> going
> > >> into the
> > >> >> > > >> 3.7 Release. Thank you all for your hard work!
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> They are the following (some of these were accepted in
> > previous
> > >> >> > releases
> > >> >> > > >> and have minor parts going out, some targeting a Preview
> > >> release and
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > >> rest being fully released as regular.):
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-1000: List Client Metrics Configuration Resources
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-1001: Add CurrentControllerId Metric
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-405: Kafka Tiered Storage
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-580: Exponential Backoff for Kafka Clients
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-714: Client metrics and observability
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-770: Replace "buffered.records.per.partition" &
> > >> >> > > >> "cache.max.bytes.buffering" with
> > >> >> > > >> "{statestore.cache}/{input.buffer}.max.bytes"
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-848: The Next Generation of the Consumer Rebalance
> > >> Protocol
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-858: Handle JBOD broker disk failure in KRaft
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-890: Transactions Server-Side Defense
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-892: Transactional StateStores
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-896: Remove old client protocol API versions in Kafka
> > >> 4.0 -
> > >> >> > > >> metrics/request log changes to identify deprecated apis
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-925: Rack aware task assignment in Kafka Streams
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-938: Add more metrics for measuring KRaft performance
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-951 - Leader discovery optimizations for the client
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-954: expand default DSL store configuration to custom
> > >> types
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-959: Add BooleanConverter to Kafka Connect
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-960: Single-key single-timestamp IQv2 for state
> stores
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-963: Additional metrics in Tiered Storage
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-968: Support single-key_multi-timestamp Interactive
> > >> Queries
> > >> >> > > (IQv2)
> > >> >> > > >> for Versioned State Stores
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-970: Deprecate and remove Connect's redundant task
> > >> >> > configurations
> > >> >> > > >> endpoint
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-975: Docker Image for Apache Kafka
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-976: Cluster-wide dynamic log adjustment for Kafka
> > >> Connect
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-978: Allow dynamic reloading of certificates with
> > >> different DN
> > >> >> > /
> > >> >> > > >> SANs
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-979: Allow independently stop KRaft processes
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-980: Allow creating connectors in a stopped state
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-985: Add reverseRange and reverseAll query over
> > kv-store
> > >> in
> > >> >> > IQv2
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-988: Streams Standby Update Listener
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-992: Proposal to introduce IQv2 Query Types:
> > >> >> > TimestampedKeyQuery
> > >> >> > > >> and TimestampedRangeQuery
> > >> >> > > >>  - KIP-998: Give ProducerConfig(props, doLog) constructor
> > >> protected
> > >> >> > > access
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> Notable KIPs that didn't make the Freeze were KIP-977 - it
> > only
> > >> got
> > >> >> > 2/3
> > >> >> > > >> votes.
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> For the full list and latest source of truth, refer to the
> > >> Release
> > >> >> > Plan
> > >> >> > > >> 3.7.0 Document
> > >> >> > > >> <
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.7.0
> > >> >> > >.
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> Thanks for your contributions once again!
> > >> >> > > >> Best,
> > >> >> > > >> Stan
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:27 PM Nick Telford <
> > >> nick.telf...@gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> Hi Stan,
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> I'd like to propose including KIP-892 in the 3.7 release.
> The
> > >> KIP has
> > >> >> > > >>> been
> > >> >> > > >>> accepted and I'm just working on rebasing the
> implementation
> > >> against
> > >> >> > > >>> trunk
> > >> >> > > >>> before I open a PR.
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> Regards,
> > >> >> > > >>> Nick
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 11:27, Mayank Shekhar Narula <
> > >> >> > > >>> mayanks.nar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > Hi Stan
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > Can you include KIP-951 to the 3.7 release plan? All PRs
> > are
> > >> merged
> > >> >> > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > trunk.
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 4:05 PM Stanislav Kozlovski
> > >> >> > > >>> > <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Friendly reminder to everybody that the KIP Freeze is
> > >> *exactly 7
> > >> >> > > days
> > >> >> > > >>> > away*
> > >> >> > > >>> > > - November 22.
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > A KIP must be accepted by this date in order to be
> > >> considered for
> > >> >> > > >>> this
> > >> >> > > >>> > > release. Note, any KIP that may not be implemented in
> > >> time, or
> > >> >> > > >>> otherwise
> > >> >> > > >>> > > risks heavily destabilizing the release, should be
> > >> deferred.
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Stan
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 6:03 AM Sophie Blee-Goldman <
> > >> >> > > >>> > sop...@responsive.dev>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > Looks great, thank you! +1
> > >> >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 10:21 AM David Jacot
> > >> >> > > >>> > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > >> >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > +1 from me as well. Thanks, Stan!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > David
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 6:04 PM Ismael Juma <
> > >> >> > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > >> >> > > >>> > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > Thanks Stanislav, +1
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > Ismael
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 7:01 AM Stanislav
> Kozlovski
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Given the discussion here and the lack of any
> > >> pushback, I
> > >> >> > > >>> have
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > changed
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > dates of the release:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > - KIP Freeze - *November 22 *(moved 4 days
> later)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > - Feature Freeze - *December 6 *(moved 2 days
> > >> earlier)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > - Code Freeze - *December 20*
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > If anyone has any thoughts against this
> proposal
> > -
> > >> please
> > >> >> > > >>> let me
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > know!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > It
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > would be good to settle on this early. These
> will
> > >> be the
> > >> >> > > >>> dates
> > >> >> > > >>> > > we're
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > going
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > with
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 12:15 AM Sophie
> > >> Blee-Goldman <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > sop...@responsive.dev>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > Thanks for the response and explanations -- I
> > >> think the
> > >> >> > > >>> main
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > question
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > me
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > was whether we intended to permanently
> increase
> > >> the KF
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > > >>> FF
> > >> >> > > >>> > gap
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > from
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > historical 1 week to 3 weeks? Maybe this was
> a
> > >> >> > conscious
> > >> >> > > >>> > decision
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > and I
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > just
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >  missed the memo, hopefully someone else can
> > >> chime in
> > >> >> > > >>> here. I'm
> > >> >> > > >>> > > all
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > additional though. And looking around at some
> > of
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > recent
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > releases,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > it
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > seems like we haven't been consistently
> > >> following the
> > >> >> > > >>> "usual"
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > schedule
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > since
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > the 2.x releases.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > Anyways, my main concern was making sure to
> > >> leave a
> > >> >> > full
> > >> >> > > 2
> > >> >> > > >>> > weeks
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > between
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > feature freeze and code freeze, so I'm
> > generally
> > >> happy
> > >> >> > > >>> with the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > new
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > proposal.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > Although I would still prefer to have the KIP
> > >> freeze
> > >> >> > fall
> > >> >> > > >>> on a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > Wednesday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > --
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > Ismael actually brought up the same thing
> > during
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > 3.5.0
> > >> >> > > >>> > > release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > planning,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > so I'll just refer to his explanation for
> this:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > We typically choose a Wednesday for the
> various
> > >> freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> dates -
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > there
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > are
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > often 1-2 day slips and it's better if that
> > >> doesn't
> > >> >> > > >>> require
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > people
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > working through the weekend.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > (From this mailing list thread
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > <
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dv1rym2jkf0141sfsbkws8ckkzw7st5h
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > Sophie
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:13 AM Stanislav
> > >> Kozlovski
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the thorough response, Sophie.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > - Added to the "Future Release Plan"
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 1. Why is the KIP freeze deadline on a
> > >> Saturday?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > It was simply added as a starting point -
> > >> around 30
> > >> >> > > days
> > >> >> > > >>> from
> > >> >> > > >>> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > announcement. We can move it earlier to the
> > >> 15th of
> > >> >> > > >>> November,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > but
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > my
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > thinking is later is better with these
> things
> > >> - it's
> > >> >> > > >>> already
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > aggressive
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > enough. e.g given the choice of Nov 15 vs
> Nov
> > >> 18, I
> > >> >> > > don't
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > necessarily
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > see a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > strong reason to choose 15.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > If people feel strongly about this, to make
> > up
> > >> for
> > >> >> > > this,
> > >> >> > > >>> we
> > >> >> > > >>> > can
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > eat
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > into
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the KF-FF time as I'll touch upon later,
> and
> > >> move FF
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > > >>> few
> > >> >> > > >>> > days
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > earlier
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > land on a Wednesday.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > This reduces the time one has to get their
> > >> feature
> > >> >> > > >>> complete
> > >> >> > > >>> > > after
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > KF,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > but
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > allows for longer time to a KIP accepted,
> so
> > >> the
> > >> >> > KF-FF
> > >> >> > > >>> gap
> > >> >> > > >>> > can
> > >> >> > > >>> > > be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > made
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > up
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > when developing the feature in parallel.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > , this makes it easy for everyone to
> > >> remember when
> > >> >> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> next
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > deadline
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > so they can make sure to get everything in
> on
> > >> time. I
> > >> >> > > >>> worry
> > >> >> > > >>> > > that
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > varying
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > this will catch people off guard.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > I don't see much value in optimizing the
> > dates
> > >> for
> > >> >> > ease
> > >> >> > > >>> of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > memory -
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > besides
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the KIP Freeze (which is the base date),
> > there
> > >> are
> > >> >> > only
> > >> >> > > >>> two
> > >> >> > > >>> > > more
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > dates
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > remember that are on the wiki. More
> > >> importantly, we
> > >> >> > > have
> > >> >> > > >>> a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > plethora
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > tools that can be used to set up reminders
> -
> > >> so a
> > >> >> > > >>> contributor
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > doesn't
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > necessarily need to remember anything if
> > >> they're
> > >> >> > > serious
> > >> >> > > >>> > about
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > getting
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > their feature in.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 3. Is there a particular reason for
> having
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > feature
> > >> >> > > >>> > freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > almost
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > full 3 weeks from the KIP freeze? ...
> having
> > 3
> > >> weeks
> > >> >> > > >>> between
> > >> >> > > >>> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > KIP
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > feature freeze (which are
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > usually separated by just a single week)?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > I was going off the last two releases,
> which
> > >> had *20
> > >> >> > > >>> days*
> > >> >> > > >>> > (~3
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > weeks)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > between KF & FF. Here are their dates:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > - AK 3.5
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - KF: 22 March
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - FF: 12 April
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >     - (20 days after)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - CF: 26 April
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >     - (14 days after)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - Release: 15 June
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >      - 50 days after CF
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > - AK 3.6
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - KF: 26 July
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - FF: 16 Aug
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >     - (20 days after)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - CF: 30 Aug
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >     - (14 days after)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >   - Release: 11 October
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >     - 42 days after CF
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > I don't know the precise reasoning for
> > >> extending the
> > >> >> > > >>> time,
> > >> >> > > >>> > nor
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > what
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > most appropriate time - but having talked
> > >> offline to
> > >> >> > > some
> > >> >> > > >>> > folks
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > prior
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > this discussion, it seemed reasonable.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Your proposal uses an aggressive 1-week gap
> > >> between
> > >> >> > > both,
> > >> >> > > >>> > which
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > quite
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the jump from the previous 3 weeks.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Perhaps someone with more direct experience
> > in
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > >>> recent can
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > chime
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > here. Both for the reasoning for the
> > extension
> > >> from
> > >> >> > 1w
> > >> >> > > >>> to 3w
> > >> >> > > >>> > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > last
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > 2
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > releases, and how they feel about reducing
> > this
> > >> >> > range.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 4. On the other hand, we usually have a
> > full
> > >> two
> > >> >> > > weeks
> > >> >> > > >>> from
> > >> >> > > >>> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > feature
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > freeze deadline to the code freeze but with
> > >> the given
> > >> >> > > >>> > schedule
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > there
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > would
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > only be a week and a half. Given how
> > important
> > >> this
> > >> >> > > >>> period is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > testing
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > and stabilizing the release, and how vital
> > >> this is
> > >> >> > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > uncovering
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > blockers
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > that would have delayed the release
> > deadline, I
> > >> >> > really
> > >> >> > > >>> think
> > >> >> > > >>> > we
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > should
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > maintain the two-week gap (at a minimum)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > This is a fair point. At the end of the
> day,
> > >> we have
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > > >>> take
> > >> >> > > >>> > > time
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > out
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > either one of the 3 ranges (now - KF;
> KF-FF;
> > >> FF-CF;)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > *It sounds fair to me to take out half a
> week
> > >> from
> > >> >> > > KF-FF
> > >> >> > > >>> and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > add
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > it
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > FF-CF*. e.g:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > - KF=Nov 18 (Sat)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > - FF=Dec 6 (Wed) 2.5w after
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > - CF=Dec 20 (Wed) 2w after
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > How do others feel about this?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Just to throw a suggestion out there, if
> we
> > >> want to
> > >> >> > > >>> avoid
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > running
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > into
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the winter holidays while still making up
> for
> > >> >> > slipping
> > >> >> > > of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > recent
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > releases,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > what about something like this: ...
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Looking at the last 2 releases, they both
> had
> > >> a full
> > >> >> > > >>> month
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > between
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > KIP
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Freeze and Code Freeze to finish
> > >> contributions. Your
> > >> >> > > >>> proposal
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > goes
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > back
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > a more aggressive 3 weeks e2e time. All
> else
> > >> equal,
> > >> >> > if
> > >> >> > > >>> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > date
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > to be kept as early January, I would prefer
> > to
> > >> opt
> > >> >> > for
> > >> >> > > >>> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > more
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > accommodative 4-week period.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Note that historically, we have set all
> the
> > >> >> > deadlines
> > >> >> > > >>> on a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > Wednesday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > when in doubt erred on the side of an
> earlier
> > >> >> > deadline
> > >> >> > > >>> ... We
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > can,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > often have, allowed things to come in late
> > >> between
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Wednesday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > deadline and the following Friday, but only
> > on
> > >> a
> > >> >> > > >>> case-by-case
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > basis.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > This makes sense to me. The proposal I put
> > >> above puts
> > >> >> > > >>> the two
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > critical
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > dates (FF & CF) on Wed to allow for this
> > >> flexibility
> > >> >> > in
> > >> >> > > >>> case
> > >> >> > > >>> > > it's
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > needed.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 12:40 AM Sophie
> > >> Blee-Goldman
> > >> >> > <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > sop...@responsive.dev>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Actually I have a few questions about the
> > >> schedule:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 1. Why is the KIP freeze deadline on a
> > >> Saturday?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Traditionally
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > this
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > has
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > been on a Wednesday, which is nice
> because
> > >> it gives
> > >> >> > > >>> people
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > until
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Monday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > kick off the vote and give people a full
> 3
> > >> working
> > >> >> > > >>> days to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > review
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > vote
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > on it. Also,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 2. Why are the subsequent deadlines on
> > >> different
> > >> >> > days
> > >> >> > > >>> of
> > >> >> > > >>> > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > week?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Usually
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > we aim to have the freeze deadlines
> > >> separated by an
> > >> >> > > >>> integer
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > number
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > weeks. Besides just being a consequence
> of
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > typical
> > >> >> > > >>> 1/2
> > >> >> > > >>> > > week
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > separation
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > between freeze dates, this makes it easy
> > for
> > >> >> > everyone
> > >> >> > > >>> to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > remember
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > when
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > next deadline is so they can make sure to
> > get
> > >> >> > > >>> everything in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > on
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > time.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > I
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > worry that varying this will catch people
> > off
> > >> >> > guard.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 3. Is there a particular reason for
> having
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > feature
> > >> >> > > >>> > freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > almost
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > full
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 3 weeks from the KIP freeze? I understand
> > >> moving
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > >>> KIP
> > >> >> > > >>> > > freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > deadline
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > up
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > to account for recent release delays, but
> > >> aren't we
> > >> >> > > >>> wasting
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > some
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > that
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > gained time by having 3 weeks between the
> > >> KIP and
> > >> >> > > >>> feature
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > (which
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > are
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > usually separated by just a single week)?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > 4. On the other hand, we usually have a
> > full
> > >> two
> > >> >> > > weeks
> > >> >> > > >>> from
> > >> >> > > >>> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > feature
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > freeze deadline to the code freeze but
> with
> > >> the
> > >> >> > given
> > >> >> > > >>> > > schedule
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > there
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > would
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > only be a week and a half. Given how
> > >> important this
> > >> >> > > >>> period
> > >> >> > > >>> > is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > testing
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > and stabilizing the release, and how
> vital
> > >> this is
> > >> >> > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > uncovering
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > blockers
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > that would have delayed the release
> > >> deadline, I
> > >> >> > > really
> > >> >> > > >>> > think
> > >> >> > > >>> > > we
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > should
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > maintain the two-week gap (at a minimum)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Note that historically, we have set all
> the
> > >> >> > deadlines
> > >> >> > > >>> on a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > Wednesday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > when in doubt erred on the side of an
> > earlier
> > >> >> > > >>> deadline, to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > encourage
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > folks
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > to get their work completed and
> stabilized
> > >> as soon
> > >> >> > as
> > >> >> > > >>> > > possible.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > We
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > can,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > often have, allowed things to come in
> late
> > >> between
> > >> >> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > Wednesday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > deadline and the following Friday, but
> only
> > >> on a
> > >> >> > > >>> > case-by-case
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > basis.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > This
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > way the RM has the flexibility to
> determine
> > >> what to
> > >> >> > > >>> allow
> > >> >> > > >>> > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > when,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > if
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > need
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > be, while still having everyone aim for
> the
> > >> >> > > established
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > deadlines.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Just to throw a suggestion out there, if
> we
> > >> want to
> > >> >> > > >>> avoid
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > running
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > into
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > winter holidays while still making up for
> > >> slipping
> > >> >> > of
> > >> >> > > >>> > recent
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > releases,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > what
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > about something like this:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > KIP Freeze: Nov 22nd
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Feature Freeze: Nov 29th
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: Dec 13th
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > We can keep the release target as Jan 3rd
> > or
> > >> move
> > >> >> > it
> > >> >> > > >>> up to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Dec
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > 27th.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Personally, I would just aim to have it
> as
> > >> Dec 27th
> > >> >> > > but
> > >> >> > > >>> > keep
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > stated
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > target as Jan 3rd, to account for
> > unexpected
> > >> >> > > >>> > blockers/delays
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > time
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > away
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > during the winter holidays
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 3:14 PM Sophie
> > >> >> > Blee-Goldman <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > sop...@responsive.dev
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Can you add the 3.7 plan to the release
> > >> schedule
> > >> >> > > >>> page?
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > (this -->
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Future+release+plan
> )
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 2:27 AM
> Stanislav
> > >> >> > Kozlovski
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> Hey Chris,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks for the catch! It was indeed
> > >> copied and I
> > >> >> > > >>> wasn't
> > >> >> > > >>> > > sure
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > what
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > make
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> of the bullet point, so I kept it.
> What
> > >> you say
> > >> >> > > >>> makes
> > >> >> > > >>> > > sense
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > -
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > I
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > removed
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> it.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> I also added KIP-976!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> Cheers!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 9:35 PM Chris
> > >> Egerton <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > fearthecel...@gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi Stanislav,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks for putting this together! I
> > >> think the
> > >> >> > > >>> "Ensure
> > >> >> > > >>> > > that
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > candidates include artifacts for the
> > new
> > >> >> > Connect
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > test-plugins
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > module"
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > section (which I'm guessing was
> copied
> > >> over
> > >> >> > from
> > >> >> > > >>> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > 3.6.0
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> plan?)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > can be removed; we made sure that
> > those
> > >> >> > > artifacts
> > >> >> > > >>> were
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > present
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> 3.6.0,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > and I don't anticipate any changes
> > that
> > >> would
> > >> >> > > make
> > >> >> > > >>> > them
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > likelier
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > accidentally dropped in subsequent
> > >> releases
> > >> >> > than
> > >> >> > > >>> any
> > >> >> > > >>> > > other
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > Maven
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> artifacts
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > that we publish.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > Also, can we add KIP-976 (
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-976%3A+Cluster-wide+dynamic+log+adjustment+for+Kafka+Connect
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > )
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > to the release plan? The vote thread
> > >> for it
> > >> >> > > passed
> > >> >> > > >>> > last
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > week
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > I've
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > published a complete PR (
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14538
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > ),
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> so
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > it
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > shouldn't be too difficult to get
> > things
> > >> >> > merged
> > >> >> > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > time
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > 3.7.0.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > Cheers,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > Chris
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 3:26 PM
> > >> Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> Kozlovski
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > <stanis...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Thanks for letting me drive it,
> > folks.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > I've created the 3.7.0 release
> page
> > >> here:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.7.0
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > It outlines the key milestones and
> > >> important
> > >> >> > > >>> dates
> > >> >> > > >>> > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > release.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > In particular, since the last two
> > >> releases
> > >> >> > > >>> slipped
> > >> >> > > >>> > > their
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > originally
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > targeted release date by taking an
> > >> average
> > >> >> > of
> > >> >> > > 46
> > >> >> > > >>> > days
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > after
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > code
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> freeze
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > (as
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > opposed to the minimum which is 14
> > >> days), I
> > >> >> > > >>> pulled
> > >> >> > > >>> > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > dates
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > forward
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > try
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > and catch up with the original
> > release
> > >> >> > > schedule.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > You can refer to the last release
> > >> during the
> > >> >> > > >>> > Christmas
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > holiday
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > season
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> -
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Apache
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Kafka 3.4
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.4.0
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> -
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > see sample dates.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > The currently proposed dates are:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *KIP Freeze - 18th November
> > >> *(Saturday)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *This is 1 month and four days
> from
> > >> now -
> > >> >> > > rather
> > >> >> > > >>> > > short -
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > but
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > I'm
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> afraid
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > is
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > the only lever that's easy to pull
> > >> forward.*
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > As usual, a KIP must be accepted
> by
> > >> this
> > >> >> > date
> > >> >> > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > order
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> considered
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > for
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > this release. Note, any KIP that
> may
> > >> not be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > implemented
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > in a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > week,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > or
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > that
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > might destabilize the release,
> > should
> > >> be
> > >> >> > > >>> deferred.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *Feature Freeze - 8th December*
> > >> (Friday)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *This follows 3 weeks after the
> KIP
> > >> Freeze,
> > >> >> > as
> > >> >> > > >>> has
> > >> >> > > >>> > > been
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > case
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> our
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > latest releases.*
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > By this point, we want all major
> > >> features to
> > >> >> > > be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > merged &
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > us
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> working
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > on stabilisation. Minor features
> > >> should have
> > >> >> > > >>> PRs,
> > >> >> > > >>> > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > branch
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > should
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > be cut; anything not in this state
> > >> will be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > automatically
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > moved
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > next
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > release in JIRA
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *Code Freeze - 20th December*
> > >> (Wednesday)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *Critically, this is before the
> > >> holiday
> > >> >> > season
> > >> >> > > >>> and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > ends
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > middle
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > the week, to give contributors
> more
> > >> time and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > flexibility
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > address
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> any
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > last-minute without eating into
> the
> > >> time
> > >> >> > > people
> > >> >> > > >>> > > usually
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > take
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> holidays. It
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > comes 12 days after the Feature
> > >> Freeze.This
> > >> >> > is
> > >> >> > > >>> two
> > >> >> > > >>> > > days
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > shorter
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > than
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > usual code freeze window. I don't
> > >> have a
> > >> >> > > strong
> > >> >> > > >>> > > opinion
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > am
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > open
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > extend it to Friday, or trade off
> a
> > >> day/two
> > >> >> > > >>> with the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > KF<->FF
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > date
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> range.*
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *Release -* *after January 3rd*.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > *It comes after a minimum of two
> > >> weeks of
> > >> >> > > >>> > > stabilization,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > so
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> earliest
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > we
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > can start releasing is January
> 3rd.
> > >> We will
> > >> >> > > >>> move as
> > >> >> > > >>> > > fast
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > as
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > we
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > can
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > aim
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > completing it as early in January
> as
> > >> >> > > possible.*
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > As for the initially-populated
> KIPs
> > >> in the
> > >> >> > > >>> release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > plan, I
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > did
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > following:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > I kept 4 KIPs that were mentioned
> in
> > >> 3.6,
> > >> >> > > saying
> > >> >> > > >>> > they
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > would
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > have
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > minor
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > parts finished in 3.7 (as the
> major
> > >> ones
> > >> >> > went
> > >> >> > > >>> out in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > 3.6)
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > - KIP-405 Tiered Storage
> mentioned a
> > >> major
> > >> >> > > part
> > >> >> > > >>> went
> > >> >> > > >>> > > out
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > with
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > 3.6
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > remainder will come with 3.7
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > - KIP-890 mentioned Part 1 shipped
> > in
> > >> 3.6. I
> > >> >> > > am
> > >> >> > > >>> > > assuming
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > remainder
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > will
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > come in 3.7, and have contacted
> the
> > >> author
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > confirm.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > - KIP-926 was partially
> implemented
> > >> in 3.6.
> > >> >> > I
> > >> >> > > am
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > assuming
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> remainder
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > will come in 3.7, and have
> contacted
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > author
> > >> >> > > >>> to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > confirm.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > - KIP-938 mentioned that the
> > majority
> > >> was
> > >> >> > > >>> completed
> > >> >> > > >>> > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > small
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> remainder
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > re: ForwardingManager metrics will
> > >> come in
> > >> >> > > 3.7.
> > >> >> > > >>> I
> > >> >> > > >>> > have
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > contacted
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > author
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > to confirm.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > I then went through the JIRA
> filter
> > >> which
> > >> >> > > looks
> > >> >> > > >>> at
> > >> >> > > >>> > > open
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > issues
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > with
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> Fix
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Version of 3.7 and added KIP-770,
> > >> KIP-858,
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > KIP-980.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > I also found a fair amount of
> JIRAs
> > >> that
> > >> >> > were
> > >> >> > > >>> > > targeting
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > 3.7
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > but
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > consecutively had no activity on
> > them
> > >> for
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > >>> past
> > >> >> > > >>> > few
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > releases.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > For
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> most
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > of those, I pinged the author and
> > >> explicitly
> > >> >> > > >>> asked
> > >> >> > > >>> > if
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > it's
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > going
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> aim
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > to
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > make it to 3.7. I have not
> included
> > >> those
> > >> >> > here
> > >> >> > > >>> and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > will
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > not
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > until
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > I
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> hear
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > confirmation.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Please review the plan and provide
> > any
> > >> >> > > >>> additional
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > information
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > or
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> updates
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > regarding KIPs that target this
> > >> release
> > >> >> > > version
> > >> >> > > >>> > (3.7).
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > If you have authored any KIPs that
> > >> have an
> > >> >> > > >>> > inaccurate
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > status
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> list,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > or are not in the list and should
> > be,
> > >> or are
> > >> >> > > in
> > >> >> > > >>> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > list
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > should
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> not
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > be
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > - please inform me in this thread
> so
> > >> that I
> > >> >> > > can
> > >> >> > > >>> keep
> > >> >> > > >>> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > document
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > accurate
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > and up to date.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Excited to get this release going!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > All the best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:12 AM
> > Bruno
> > >> >> > Cadonna
> > >> >> > > <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > cado...@apache.org
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks Stan!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > +1
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Bruno
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > On 10/10/23 7:24 AM, Luke Chen
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks Stanislav!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at
> 3:05 AM
> > >> Josep
> > >> >> > Prat
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks Stanislav!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> ———
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Josep Prat
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Aiven Deutschland GmbH
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117
> Berlin
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> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg,
> HRB
> > >> 209739
> > >> >> > B
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Geschäftsführer: Oskari
> > >> Saarenmaa &
> > >> >> > Hannu
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Valtonen
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> m: +491715557497
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> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> w: aiven.io
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> e: josep.p...@aiven.io
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023, 20:05
> > Chris
> > >> >> > Egerton
> > >> >> > > <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> fearthecel...@gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> +1, thanks Stanislav!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023, 14:02
> > Bill
> > >> >> > Bejeck <
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > bbej...@gmail.com
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>> +1
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>> Thanks, Stanislav!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>> -Bill
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at
> > 1:59 PM
> > >> Ismael
> > >> >> > > >>> Juma <
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> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>> Thanks for volunteering
> > >> Stanislav!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>> Ismael
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at
> > >> 10:51 AM
> > >> >> > > >>> Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > Kozlovski
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>> <stanis...@confluent.io
> > >> .invalid>
> > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Hey all!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> I would like to volunteer
> > to
> > >> be the
> > >> >> > > >>> release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > manager
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > driving
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> next
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> release - Apache Kafka
> > >> *3.7.0*.
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> If there are no
> objections,
> > >> I will
> > >> >> > > >>> start
> > >> >> > > >>> > and
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > share
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > a
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > release
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > plan
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> soon
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> enough!
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > --
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > --
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > --
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> > > --
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Best,
> > >> >> > > >>> > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>> > >
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>> > --
> > >> >> > > >>> > Regards,
> > >> >> > > >>> > Mayank Shekhar Narula
> > >> >> > > >>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> --
> > >> >> > > >> Best,
> > >> >> > > >> Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > --
> > >> >> > > > Best,
> > >> >> > > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > --
> > >> >> > > Best,
> > >> >> > > Stanislav
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Stanislav
> >
>


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Best,
Stanislav

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