Thanks Josep, I've applied for a JIRA account and addressed your
review comments.

Am Do., 8. Feb. 2024 um 09:19 Uhr schrieb Josep Prat
<josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> I think for this particular case it would be worth creating a JIRA ticket
> for this as it's a new "feature".
> Regarding the change itself, I think we need to clarify how the release
> process would work. Right now, the script `gradlewAll` is used (which
> basically runs the build with Scala version 2.12 and 2.13). If I understand
> your changes correctly, we would need to run the build 3 times:
> - 1 with property scalaVersion 2.12
> - 1 with scalaVersion 2.13 and streamsScalaVersion 2.13
> - 1 with scalaVersion 2.13 and streamsScalaVersion 3.1
>
> I think we should document this and discuss when to have this feature. If I
> remember correctly from when I tried to update Kafka to Scala 3, the idea
> was to push this to a Kafka 4.0 version because we didn't want to maintain
> more than 2 Scala versions at the same time. I would encourage if not
> having a KIP, at least open up a [DISCUSS] thread to clarify some of these
> points.
>
> I'll add some feedback on the PR itself regarding the changes.
>
> Best,
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 1:57 AM Matthias Berndt <matthias.ber...@ttmzero.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Matthias J., Hi Lucas, Hi Josep,
> >
> > Thank you for your encouraging responses regarding a Scala 3 port of
> > Kafka-Streams-Scala, and apologies for the late response from my side.
> > I have now created a PR to port Kafka-Streams-Scala to Scala 3 (while
> > retaining support for 2.13 and 2.12). Almost no changes to the code
> > were required and the tests also pass. Please take a look and let me
> > know what you think :-)
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/15338
> >
> > All the best
> > Matthias
> >
> > Am Do., 1. Feb. 2024 um 16:35 Uhr schrieb Josep Prat
> > <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > For reference, prior work on this:
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/11350
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/11432
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2024, 15:55 Lucas Brutschy <lbruts...@confluent.io
> > .invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Matthiases,
> > > >
> > > > I know Scala 2 fairly well, so I'd be happy to review changes that add
> > > > Scala 3 support. However, as Matthias S. said, it has to be driven by
> > > > people who use Scala day-to-day, since I believe most Kafka Streams
> > > > committers are working with Java.
> > > >
> > > > Rewriting the tests to not use EmbeddedKafkaCluster seems like a large
> > > > undertaking, so option 1 is the first thing we should explore.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have any experience with Scala 3 migration topics, but on the
> > > > Scala website it says
> > > > > The first piece of good news is that the Scala 3 compiler is able to
> > > > read the Scala 2.13 Pickle format and thus it can type check code that
> > > > depends on modules or libraries compiled with Scala 2.13.
> > > > > One notable example is the Scala 2.13 library. We have indeed decided
> > > > that the Scala 2.13 library is the official standard library for Scala
> > 3.
> > > > So wouldn't that mean that we are safe in terms of standard library
> > > > upgrades if we use core_2.13 in the tests?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Lucas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 9:20 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for raising this. The `kafka-streams-scala` module seems to
> > be an
> > > > > important feature for Kafka Streams and I am generally in favor of
> > your
> > > > > proposal to add Scala 3 support. However, I am personally no Scala
> > > > > person and it sounds like quite some overhead.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are willing to drive and own this initiative happy to support
> > you
> > > > > to the extend I can.
> > > > >
> > > > > About the concrete proposal: my understanding is that :core will move
> > > > > off Scala long-term (not 100% sure what the timeline is, but new
> > modules
> > > > > are written in Java only). Thus, down the road the compatibility
> > issue
> > > > > would go away naturally, but it's unclear when.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thus, if we can test kafak-stream-scala_3 with core_2.13 it seems we
> > > > > could add support for Scala 3 now, taking a risk that it might break
> > in
> > > > > the future assume that the migration off Scala from core is not fast
> > > > enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > For proposal (2), I don't think that it would be easily possible for
> > > > > unit/integration tests. We could fall back to system tests though,
> > but
> > > > > they would be much more heavy weight of course.
> > > > >
> > > > > Might be good to hear from others. We might actually also want to do
> > a
> > > > > KIP for this?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matthias
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/20/24 10:34 AM, Matthias Berndt wrote:
> > > > > > Hey there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd like to discuss a Scala 3 port of the kafka-streams-scala
> > library.
> > > > > > Currently, the build system is set up such that kafka-streams-scala
> > > > > > and core (i. e. kafka itself) are compiled with the same Scala
> > > > > > compiler versions. This is not an optimal situation because it
> > means
> > > > > > that a Scala 3 release of kafka-streams-scala cannot happen
> > > > > > independently of kafka itself. I think this should be changed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The production codebase of scala-streams-kafka actually compiles
> > just
> > > > > > fine on Scala 3.3.1 with two lines of trivial syntax changes. The
> > > > > > problem is with the tests. These use the `EmbeddedKafkaCluster`
> > class,
> > > > > > which means that kafka is pulled into the classpath, potentially
> > > > > > leading to binary compatibility issues.
> > > > > > I can see several approaches to fixing this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Run the kafka-streams-scala tests using the compatible version
> > of
> > > > > > :core if one is available. Currently, this means that everything
> > can
> > > > > > be tested (test kafka-streams-scala_2.12 using core_2.12,
> > > > > > kafka-streams-scala_2.13 using core_2.13 and kafka-streams-scala_3
> > > > > > using core_2.13, as these should be compatible), but when a new
> > > > > > scala-library version is released that is no longer compatible with
> > > > > > 2.13, we won't be able to test that.
> > > > > > 2. Rewrite the tests to run without EmbeddedKafkaCluster, instead
> > > > > > running the test cluster in a separate JVM or perhaps even a
> > > > > > container.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd be willing to get my hands dirty working on this, but before I
> > > > > > start I'd like to get some feedback from the Kafka team regarding
> > the
> > > > > > approaches outlined above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All the best
> > > > > > Matthias Berndt
> > > >
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