Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the feedback. I have updated KIP-512 and addressed AS2, AS3, and
AS4. For AS1, let's wait for further responses from the community.


Regards,
Rich


On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 5:59 AM Andrew Schofield <andrew_schofi...@live.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks for adding the detail. It seems quite straightforward to
> implement in the producer code.
>
> AS1: Personally, and of course this is a matter of taste and just one
> opinion, I don’t like adding Headers to RecordMetadata. It seems to me
> that RecordMetadata is information about the record that’s been produced
> whereas the Headers are really part of the record itself. So, I prefer the
> alternative which overloads ProducerInterceptor.onAcknowledgement.
>
> AS2: ProducerBatch and FutureRecordMetadata are both internal classes
> and do not need to be documented in the KIP.
>
> AS3: This KIP is adding rather than replcaing the constructor for
> RecordMetadata.
> You should define the value for the Headers if an existing constructor
> without headers is used.
>
> AS4: You should add a method `Headers headers()` to RecordMetadata.
>
>
> I wonder what other community members think about whether it’s a good
> idea to extend RecordMetadata with the headers.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
> > On 29 Jul 2024, at 05:36, Rich C. <chenjy.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thank you for the positive feedback. I added proposal changes to KIP-512
> > and included a FAQ section to address some concerns.
> >
> > Hi Andrew, yes, this KIP focuses on
> > `ProducerInterceptor.onAcknowledgement`. I added FAQ#3 to explain that.
> >
> > Hi Matthias, for your question about "RecordMetadata being Kafka
> metadata" in
> > this thread
> > <
> https://lists.apache.org/list?dev@kafka.apache.org:lte=1M:make%20Record%20Headers%20available%20in%20onAcknowledgement
> >,
> > I added FAQ#2 to explain that. If I have missed any documentation
> regarding
> > the design of RecordMetadata, please let me know.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rich
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 4:00 PM Andrew Schofield <
> andrew_schofi...@live.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rich,
> >> Thanks for resurrecting this KIP. It seems like a useful idea to me and
> >> I’d be interested in seeing the proposed public interfaces.
> >>
> >> I note that you specifically called out the
> >> ProducerInterceptor.onAcknowledgement
> >> method, as opposed to the producer Callback.onCompletion method.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>> On 26 Jul 2024, at 04:54, Rich C. <chenjy.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Kevin,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your support.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Matthias,
> >>>
> >>> I apologize for the confusion. I've deleted the Public Interface
> sections
> >>> for now. I think we should focus on discussing its necessity with the
> >>> community. I'll let it sit for a few more days, and if there are no
> >>> objections, I will propose changes over the weekend and share them here
> >>> again.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Rich
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 5:51 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Rich,
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks for resurrecting this KIP. I was not part of the original
> >>>> discussion back in the day, but personally agree with your assessment
> >>>> that making headers available in the callbacks would make developer's
> >>>> life much simpler.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the KIP itself, starting with "Public Interface" section,
> everything
> >>>> is formatted as "strike through". Can you fix this? It's confusing as
> >>>> it's apparently not correctly formatted, but unclear which (if any)
> >>>> parts should be formatted like this. In general, wiki pages have
> >>>> history, so strike-through should be used rather rarely but the wiki
> >>>> page should just contain the latest proposal. (If one want to see the
> >>>> history, it's there anyway).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Matthias
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/23/24 6:36 AM, Kevin Lam wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for starting the discussion. Latency Measurement and Tracing
> >>>>> Completeness are both good reasons to support this feature, and would
> >> be
> >>>>> interested to see this move forward.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 11:15 PM Rich C. <chenjy.r...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hope this email finds you well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to start a discussion on KIP-512. The initial version
> of
> >>>>>> KIP-512 was created in 2019, and I have resurrected it in 2024 with
> >> more
> >>>>>> details about the motivation behind it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can view the current version of the KIP here: KIP-512: Make
> Record
> >>>>>> Headers Available in onAcknowledgement.
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-512%3A+make+Record+Headers+available+in+onAcknowledgement
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's focus on discussing the necessity of this feature first. If we
> >>>> agree
> >>>>>> on its importance, we can then move on to discussing the proposed
> >>>> changes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looking forward to your feedback.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>> Rich
>
>
>

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