Hi Matthias,
Option 2 works for me and seems like a good way to transition to
the more regular release cadence in the future.

Thanks,
Andrew

On 2026/10/29 22:32:18 Matthias J. Sax wrote:
> Thanks Andrew.
> 
> I see that you did keep Jan/13 for KIP freeze, and did not pull it 
> forward. LGTM.
> 
> 
> > but I think it's very hard to be concrete about 4.6.0 at this point.
> 
> Is it? In the end, if we say we want to follow the long-term proposed 
> timeline in general, we are looking into the following dates:
> 
> Proposed KIP-freeze dates for 2027
> 
> Release-1: March/3 (week 9)
> Relasee-2: June/23 (week 25)
> Release-3: Oct/13 (week 41)
> 
> So there is two options:
> 
>   (1) We keep March/3, and do 4 release in 2027. Personally, I don't 
> think this make a lot of sense. With the Jan/13 KIP freeze for AK 4.5 
> the cycle for AK 4.6 would be way too short IMHO.
> 
>   (2) We treat the AK 4.5 release as release-1, ie, pull forward the 
> March/13 date to Jan/13, and follow with release-2 in June/23 as 
> planned. -- Here we would still have some wiggle room: release-1 is 7 
> weeks earlier than the proposed schedule, so it would make sense to pull 
> forward release-2, too. If we keep June/23 for release-2, we would have 
> 23 weeks for AK 4.6 release, and only 16 weeks for release-3. It might 
> be better to even it out and move release-2 forward by 3 week to have 20 
> weeks for AK 4.6, and 19 weeks for AK 4.7 with Oct/13 KIP freeze date as 
> originally proposed.
> 
> 
> I would propose to go with option-2 and doing AK 4.6 with KIP freeze 
> Jun/2 (ie, 3 weeks earlier than the proposed long-term schedule).
> 
> 
> -Matthias
> 
> 
> On 10/12/26 3:17 AM, Andrew Schofield wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have gone ahead with the 4.5.0 schedule as listed, but I think it's very
> > hard to be concrete about 4.6.0 at this point.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Andrew
> > 
> > On 2026/10/10 20:33:35 Muralidhar Basani via dev wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm not deeply involved in release management, so please take this as just
> >> some data in case it's useful for the 4.5/4.6 discussion.
> >>
> >> I compared the planned dates on the wiki release plans with what actually
> >> happened in git for the last five releases:
> >>
> >> Version  Planned Feat Freeze  Branch cut  Planned target   Released
> >>   Late   RCs
> >> 4.0.0      2024-12-11                  2024-12-16  2025-01-29
> >>   2025-03-18     48d    5
> >> 4.1.0      2025-06-04                  2025-06-10  2025-07-09
> >>   2025-09-02     55d    4
> >> 4.2.0      2025-11-19                  2025-11-21  2026-01-07
> >>   2026-02-16     40d    5
> >> 4.3.0      2026-03-18                 2026-03-18  2026-05-06
> >>   2026-05-20     14d    3
> >> 4.4.0      2026-07-29                 2026-07-27  2026-09-09
> >>   2026-10-12*    33d    5
> >> (* expected)
> >>
> >> Feature freeze is usually on time; the time between code freeze and the
> >> release is where we tend to need more than planned (median ~40 days after
> >> the target). With the current 4.5.0 plan, that would put the 4.5.0 release
> >> around late April 2027, which may be worth keeping in mind when choosing
> >> the 4.6.0 dates.
> >>
> >> I put the small script in this PR, in case it's helpful for future
> >> planning: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/23769
> >> Added sample runs in the PR.
> >> If this is not the direction we want, happy to close it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is a short snippet from the scripts run
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >> % python3 release/schedule.py
> >> ....
> >> ....
> >> version  KIP freeze    derived from          feature freeze  code freeze
> >>   first RC        target release       realistic release
> >> -------     ----------         -----------------         --------------
> >>       -----------       ----------        --------------
> >> -----------------
> >> 4.5.0     2027-01-13   wiki release plan   2027-02-03      2027-02-17
> >> 2027-03-16  2027-03-17          2027-04-28
> >> 4.6.0     2027-05-19   history                   2027-06-09      2027-06-23
> >>    2027-07-20  2027-07-21          2027-09-01
> >> 4.7.0     2027-09-22   history                   2027-10-13      2027-10-27
> >>    2027-11-23  2027-11-24           2028-01-05
> >> ...
> >>
> >> %python3 release/schedule.py --release-date 4.4.0=2026-10-12 status 4.6.0
> >> ....
> >> ....
> >> Release 4.6.0 as of 2026-10-10 (dates: history)
> >> KIP freeze         2027-05-19  (in 221 days)
> >> feature freeze     2027-06-09  (in 242 days)
> >> code freeze        2027-06-23  (in 256 days)
> >> first RC           2027-07-20  (in 283 days)
> >> target release     2027-07-21  (in 284 days)
> >> realistic release  2027-09-01  (in 326 days)
> >> ...
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Murali
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 3:33 PM Matthias J. Sax <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What's you rational for doing 4.6 in March already? If we so 4.5
> >>> early/mid January, it would be a very small release. Given the overhead
> >>> releases have, I am wondering if it would be worth doing?
> >>>
> >>> For 4.5, I am also ok to start a Jan/6 instead of Jan/13 with KIP
> >>> freeze. If we do 4.6 in July (instead of March) I don't see a need to
> >>> pull it forward by one a week though. But I am fine in any case.
> >>>
> >>> -Matthias
> >>>
> >>> On 9/28/26 11:49 PM, Dejan Stojadinović wrote:
> >>>>> "Anyway, all I want to say is that the original schedule was hard to
> >>>> follow. The codebase is large and CVEs are common these days."
> >>>>
> >>>> As an occasional contributor I can confirm this.
> >>>>   From my POV committers/maintainers are having a challenging task to 
> >>>> keep
> >>>> up, especially while trying to juggle around with multiple release
> >>>> branches/versions (trunk/4.5.0, 4.4.0, 4.3.2, 4.2.2).
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Dejan S.
> >>>> https://github.com/dejan2609
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 7:55 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 to the revised 4.5.0 schedule. I would not pull it a week earlier,
> >>>>> since that puts the KIP freeze right after the holidays.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regarding the 4.6.0 schedule, I think we could discuss it once 4.5.0
> >>>>> reaches code freeze. We had too many must-have changes in 4.4.0, which
> >>>>> caused a serious delay. I try to review all backports but my tokens are
> >>>>> limited :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, all I want to say is that the original schedule was hard to
> >>>>> follow. The codebase is large and CVEs are common these days.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Chia-Ping
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2026/09/25 08:36:23 Andrew Schofield wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> I'm starting to look at the release schedule for 4.5.0.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In Chia-Ping's table from 29 May 2026, we have:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Version : KIP Freeze : Feature Freeze : Code Freeze : Target Release
> >>>>>> 4.4.0 (planned) : Jun 17, 2026: Jul 8, 2026 : Jul 22, 2026 : Aug 19,
> >>> 2026
> >>>>>> 4.5.0 : Oct 7, 2026 : Oct 28, 2026 : Nov 11, 2026 : Dec 9, 2026
> >>>>>> 4.6.0 : Mar 3, 2027 : Mar 24, 2027 : Apr 7, 2027 : May 5, 2027
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In reality, 4.4.0 ran 3 weeks later than this. Matthias suggested a KIP
> >>>>> freeze of Jan 13, 2027 which gives this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4.4.0 (actual) : Jul 8, 2026: Jul 29, 2026 : Aug 12, 2026 : Real soon
> >>> now
> >>>>>> 4.5.0 (revised): Jan 13, 2027 : Feb 3, 2027 : Feb 17, 2027 : Mar 17,
> >>> 2027
> >>>>>> 4.6.0 : Mar 3, 2027 : Mar 24, 2027 : Apr 7, 2027 : May 5, 2027
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we could even pull 4.5.0 a week earlier than that, but I don't
> >>>>> think there's anything fundamentally wrong with a short 4.6.0 provided
> >>>>> people know in advance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are people happy with the 4.5.0 (revised) dates above? Would a week
> >>>>> earlier be better given that it gives an extra week to 4.6.0 which is
> >>>>> looking very squeezed?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2026/09/16 04:01:41 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +1 to the 4.5 schedule, given the delay of 4.4.0.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think having 4.5 land right on Lunar New Year should be fine this
> >>>>> time, since "too close" is the real issue here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Matthias J. Sax <[email protected]> 於 2026年9月16日 清晨7:05 寫道:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't think we have for 4.5... I believe that there was a slight,
> >>>>> high level agreement for the long term, that we want to follow the
> >>>>> "calendar week proposal"?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP freeze would be Wednesday's, weeks 9 / 25 / 41, with
> >>>>> feature freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +3 weeks, and code freeze +2 weeks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> AK 4.4 KIP freeze was Jul/8.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For 2026, week 41 would be Oct/7 which is way too close IMHO.
> >>>>>>>> For 2027, week 9 would be Mar/3 which seems to be too far out?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Second release (week 25) for 2027 would be Jun/23, which would be
> >>>>> 4.6?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So the question remains, where to put 4.5 so we can start to follow
> >>>>> the new schedule starting with 4.6. It seems KIP freeze between Jan 13
> >>>>> might be a good compromise putting it roughly between 4.4 and 4.6 KIP
> >>>>> freeze dates. Of course, the release would overlap with Chinese New
> >>> Year,
> >>>>> but it would be the last time we have this overlap.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just my 2tc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 9/15/26 8:17 AM, David Jacot wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>> Have we converged on the schedule that we want to use yet? Based on
> >>>>>>>>> the last emails, it is not so clear to me. For your context, I am
> >>>>>>>>> trying to figure out the timeline for 4.5.
> >>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 1:03 PM Christo Lolov <
> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think we could be a bit more lax with the KIP freeze of 6.7.0
> >>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>> 2034 comes around to account for LNY :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Joking aside, my preference between "KIP freeze would be
> >>>>> Wednesday's,
> >>>>>>>>>> weeks 9 / 25 / 41, with feature freeze +3 weeks, and code freeze +2
> >>>>>>>>>> weeks" and "start Q1 release with X buffer after LYN and complete
> >>>>> Q3
> >>>>>>>>>> release with Y buffer before Christmas" would be to start with the
> >>>>>>>>>> first and adjust by shifting by 1 week on individual basis the ones
> >>>>>>>>>> which are too close. I am okay with too close being defined as 2
> >>>>>>>>>> weeks. Based on your very detailed tables we seem to have only a
> >>>>> few
> >>>>>>>>>> such outliers in the next decade.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>> Christo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 May 2026 at 08:35, Chia-Ping Tsai <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthias, you are definitely a master of scheduling! I'm +100 to
> >>>>> your plans.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, it is absolutely helpful to write down the exact release
> >>>>> dates for the next few years at once. It will ease our anxiety a lot!
> >>> I'd
> >>>>> be more than happy to update the wiki with these dates once we all
> >>> agree on
> >>>>> this new schedule. For example:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Version KIP Freeze      Feature Freeze  Code Freeze     Target
> >>>>> Release
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.4.0   Jun 17, 2026    Jul 8, 2026     Jul 22, 2026    Aug 19,
> >>>>> 2026
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.5.0   Oct 7, 2026     Oct 28, 2026    Nov 11, 2026    Dec 9,
> >>>>> 2026
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.0   Mar 3, 2027     Mar 24, 2027    Apr 7, 2027     May 5,
> >>>>> 2027
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.7.0   Jun 23, 2027    Jul 14, 2027    Jul 28, 2027    Aug 25,
> >>>>> 2027
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.8.0   Oct 13, 2027    Nov 3, 2027     Nov 17, 2027    Dec 15,
> >>>>> 2027
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.9.0   Mar 1, 2028     Mar 22, 2028    Apr 5, 2028     May 3,
> >>>>> 2028
> >>>>>>>>>>> 5.0.0   Jun 21, 2028    Jul 12, 2028    Jul 26, 2028    Aug 23,
> >>>>> 2028
> >>>>>>>>>>> 5.1.0   Oct 11, 2028    Nov 1, 2028     Nov 15, 2028    Dec 13,
> >>>>> 2028
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, let's do our best to avoid fixing release blockers
> >>>>> under the Christmas tree :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2026/05/28 21:22:51 "Matthias J. Sax" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, it seems that 3+2 weeks for feature freeze / code freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>> windows gets a lot of support.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, the idea of dividing the release windows not into 3
> >>>>> equally
> >>>>>>>>>>>> long junks, but be more flexible to account for holiday seasons,
> >>>>> seems
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not to get a lot of support? Not sure why... I personally think
> >>>>> it would
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be good to take it into account, and I also think that Chia-Ping
> >>>>> raises
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a very good point.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @Chia-Ping: Other holidays are a great point. Thanks for raising
> >>>>> it. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> did actually briefly think about it, but it's difficult, and
> >>>>> thus I just
> >>>>>>>>>>>> started with something simple as proposal to kick off a
> >>>>> discussion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think, Diwali is short enough to not make it a concern
> >>>>> (similar to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanksgiving)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For Lunar New Year, I agree that it would be good to plan for it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, it seems it's shifting quite a lot year-over-year what
> >>>>> makes it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> very difficult (w/o a huge window) to include?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, a 5 / 3.5 / 3.5 schedule seems to be quite unbalanced
> >>>>> (this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would be 22 / 15 / 15 weeks per release? And two very short 3.5
> >>>>> month
> >>>>>>>>>>>> releases does not sound very appealing?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was playing with it a little bit more. Overall we have 52
> >>>>> weeks, so
> >>>>>>>>>>>> roughly 17.3 weeks per release. So we can naturally split it into
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 17/17/18 using the additional week for the holidays. But that's
> >>>>> not good
> >>>>>>>>>>>> enough to take both Christmas and Lunar New Year into account.
> >>>>> However,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with a 16/16/20, we could make it work I believe, even if it
> >>>>> does cut it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tight sometimes... To be able to phrase a "simple rule", we can
> >>>>> use ISO
> >>>>>>>>>>>> weeks:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP freeze would be Wednesday's, weeks 9 / 25 / 41, with feature
> >>>>> freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +3 weeks, and code freeze +2 weeks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ie, we put the first KIP freeze after LNY with plenty of buffer
> >>>>> for most
> >>>>>>>>>>>> years:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ┌──────┬────────┬────────────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────┐
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ Year │  LNY   │ Q1 KIP freeze (week 9 Wed) │
> >>>>> Buffer                 │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2027 │ Feb 6  │ Mar 3                      │ 25 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2028 │ Jan 26 │ Mar 1                      │ 34 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2029 │ Feb 13 │ Feb 28                     │ 15 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2030 │ Feb 3  │ Feb 27                     │ 24 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2031 │ Jan 23 │ Feb 26                     │ 34 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2032 │ Feb 11 │ Feb 25                     │ 14 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2033 │ Jan 31 │ Mar 2                      │ 30 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2034 │ Feb 19 │ Mar 1                      │ 10 days ←
> >>>>> tightest with realistic LNY │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> ├──────┼────────┼────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2035 │ Feb 8  │ Feb 28                     │ 20 days
> >>>>>                          │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   
> >>> └──────┴────────┴────────────────────────────┴───────────────────────────────────────┘
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Guess, we could also make it week-8 instead of 9, and accept
> >>>>> that 2034
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would cut it too short (or be even more flexible and keep week-9
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2034 as an exception to the rule), but that's a single year...
> >>>>> for 2029
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and 2032 we still have one week buffer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For Christmas, we would still ensure that the release can go out
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> time, too. The below Q3 target release date is 4 weeks after code
> >>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. This is a little bit more tight, as we often need more
> >>>>> than 4
> >>>>>>>>>>>> weeks to get it done:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ┌──────┬──────────────────────────┬────────────────┐
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ Year │ Q3 release (week 50 Wed) │ Days to Dec 25 │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2026 │ Dec 9                    │ 16             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2027 │ Dec 15                   │ 10             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2028 │ Dec 13                   │ 12             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2029 │ Dec 12                   │ 13             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2030 │ Dec 11                   │ 14             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2031 │ Dec 10                   │ 15             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2032 │ Dec 8                    │ 17             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2033 │ Dec 14                   │ 11             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2034 │ Dec 13                   │ 12             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     ├──────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────────┤
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     │ 2035 │ Dec 12                   │ 13             │
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     └──────┴──────────────────────────┴────────────────┘
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For some years, we would still cut it a little bit tight, but we
> >>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>> also apply an exception to the rule, to compensate for it. If we
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> enough buffer room from LYN, we can start the Q1 release train a
> >>>>> week
> >>>>>>>>>>>> earlier, reducing the Q3->Q1 timeline by one week.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Curious to hear what people think about it. In the end, if we
> >>>>> can agree
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on high level rules like "start Q1 release with X buffer after
> >>>>> LYN", and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "complete Q3 release with Y buffer before Christmas", and still
> >>>>> aim for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> an as balance week-allocation per release, we can just put
> >>>>> together a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> release plan for the next 10 years and be done with it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/28/26 3:51 AM, Christo Lolov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pushing for this! I can confirm that the 4.2.0's
> >>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> coincided with a reasonable amount of holidays, so I would
> >>>>> favour a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3+2 schedule with releases in March, July and November.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 May 2026 at 07:05, Ismael Juma <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 12:44 AM Andrew Schofield <
> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would go for 3 releases of equal lengths in March, July and
> >>>>> November. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour the 3+2 schedule.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ismael
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> 
> 

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