Hey Todd,

You say "lose the ability" - you mean this ability actually exist now?
Or is this something you hope the new patch will support?

Gwen

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Todd Palino <tpal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Leaving aside the rest of this, on #1, while I consider being able to
> advertise the ports a good idea, I don't want to lose the ability for
> maintaining multiple ports with the same protocol. For example, being able
> to have 2 plaintext ports, one that only brokers communicate over, and one
> that general clients use. The ability to segregate this traffic is useful
> in a number of situations, over and above other controls like quotas, and
> is relatively easy to do once we support multiple ports.
>
> -Todd
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Jun Rao <jun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Gwen,
>>
>> Thanks for writing up the wiki. Some comments below.
>>
>> 1. To make it more general, should we support a binding and an advertised
>> host for each protocol (e.g. plaintext, ssl, etc)? We will also need to
>> figure out how to specify the wildcard binding host.
>>
>> 2. Broker format change in ZK
>> The broker registration in ZK needs to store the host/port for all
>> protocols. We will need to bump up the version of the broker registration
>> data. Since this is an intra-cluster protocol change, we need an extra
>> config for rolling upgrades. So, in the first step, each broker is upgraded
>> and is ready to parse brokers registered in the new format, but not
>> registering using the new format yet. In the second step, when that new
>> config is enabled, the broker will register using the new format.
>>
>> 3. Wire protocol changes. Currently, the broker info is used in the
>> following requests/responses: TopicMetadataResponse ,
>> ConsumerMetadataResponse, LeaderAndIsrRequest  and UpdateMetadataRequest.
>> 3.1 TopicMetadataResponse and ConsumerMetadataResponse:
>> These two are used between the clients and the broker. I am not sure that
>> we need to make a wire protocol change for them. Currently, the protocol
>> includes a single host/port pair in those responses. Based on the type of
>> the port on which the request is sent, it seems that we can just pick the
>> corresponding host and port to include in the response.
>> 3.2 UpdateMetadataRequest:
>> This is used between the controller and the broker. Since each broker needs
>> to cache the host/port of all protocols, we need to make a wire protocol
>> change. We also need to change the broker format in MetadataCache
>> accordingly. This is also an intra-cluster protocol change. So the upgrade
>> path will need to follow that in item 2.
>> 3.3 LeaderAndIsrRequest:
>> This is also used between the controller and the broker. The receiving
>> broker uses the host/port of the leader replica to send the fetch request.
>> I am not sure if we need a wire protocol change in this case. I was
>> imagining that we will just add a new broker config, sth like
>> replication.socket.protocol. Base on this config, the controller will pick
>> the right host/port to include in the request.
>>
>> 4. Should we plan to support security just on the new java clients?
>> Supporting security in both the old and the new clients adds more work and
>> gives people less incentive to migrate off the old clients.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jun
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Gwen Shapira <gshap...@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > One of the pre-requisites we have for supporting multiple security
>> > protocols (SSL, Kerberos) is to support them on separate ports.
>> >
>> > This is done in KAFKA-1684 (The SSL Patch), but that patch addresses
>> > several different issues - Multiple ports, enriching the channels, SSL
>> > implementation - which makes it more challenging to review and to test.
>> >
>> > I'd like to split this into 3 separate patches: multi-port brokers,
>> > enriching SocketChannel, and  the actual security implementations.
>> >
>> > Since even just adding support for multiple listeners per broker is
>> > somewhat involved and touches multiple components, I wrote a short design
>> > document that covers the necessary changes and the upgrade process:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Multiple+Listeners+for+Kafka+Brokers
>> >
>> > Comments are more than welcome :)
>> >
>> > If this is acceptable, hope to have a patch ready in few days.
>> >
>> > Gwen Shapira
>> >
>>

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