Thanks for clarifying the logic.

I'm +0 on the deny thing.
IMO, its not really needed, but if you think its important, I don't
object to having it in.

Gwen

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Parth Brahmbhatt
<pbrahmbh...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> The iptables on unix supports the DENY operator, not that it should
> matter. The deny operator can also be used to specify ³allow user1 to READ
> from topic1 from all hosts but host1,host2². Again we could add a host
> group semantic and extra complexity around that, not sure if its worth it.
> In addition with DENY operator you are now not forced to create a special
> group just to support the authorization use case. I am not convinced that
> the operator it self is really all that confusing. There are 3 practical
> use cases:
> - Resource with no acl what so ever -> allow access to everyone ( just for
> backward compatibility, I would much rather fail close and force users to
> explicitly grant acls that allows access to all users.)
> - Resource with some acl attached -> only users that have a matching allow
> acl are allowed (i.e. ³allow READ access to topic1 to user1 from all
> hosts², only user1 has READ access and no other user has access of any
> kind)
> - Resource with some allow and some deny acl attached -> users are allowed
> to perform operation only when they satisfy allow acl and do not have
> conflicting deny acl. Users that have no acl(allow or deny) will still not
> have any access. (i.e. ³allow READ access to topic1 to user1 from all
> hosts except host1 and host², only user1 has access but not from host1 an
> host2)
>
> I think we need to make a decision on deny primarily because with
> introduction of acl management API, Acl is now a public class that will be
> used by Ranger/Santry and other authroization providers. In Current design
> the acl has a permissionType enum field with possible values of Allow and
> Deny. If we chose to remove deny we can assume all acls to be of allow
> type and remove the permissionType field completely.
>
> Thanks
> Parth
>
> On 4/20/15, 6:12 PM, "Gwen Shapira" <gshap...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>>I think thats how its done in pretty much any system I can think of.
>>
>

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