Hey Gwen,

I think this was more than a verification step, it was a building step
towards a backwards compatible clients or for clients that can select
feature based on brokers it is talking to. Are we now against the idea of
having smarter clients? This adds complexity to enable clients to inform
applications of incompatible broker versions, I think that is some value
add. In future, the api versions info can be used to take smarter decisions.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io> wrote:

> I hate doing this, because Ashish has really been good about following
> up on the PR, but I'm questioning the usefulness of this patch.
>
> It adds non-trivial complexity to the client... with not much return
> on the investment, as far as I can see?
> When I first suggested it, it was before KIP-35 was merged and
> released and the intent was to validate KIP-35 (since I have low
> opinion of protocols that aren't used). Since then KIP-35 was already
> released, the followup turned more complex than we expected, I think.
> And I'm wondering if it is worth it.
>
> The work and followup from Ashish is still super appreciated, but I
> think we need more than appreciation - adding complexity to already
> complex clients need to have functional justification...
>
> Anyway, I was out of the loop for ages, so feel free to yell at me for
> missing the obvious.
>
> Gwen
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Ashish Singh <asi...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > Provided wrong link to PR, here is the PR
> > <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/1251> for KAFKA-3600.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Ashish Singh <asi...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Guys,
> >>
> >> KAFKA-3600 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3600> was part
> of
> >> KIP-35's proposal. KAFKA-3307
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3307>,
> >> adding ApiVersionsRequest/Response, was committed to 0.10.0.0, but
> >> KAFKA-3600, enhancing java clients, is still under review. Here is the
> PR
> >> <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/986>
> >>
> >> I have addressed all review comments and have been waiting for further
> >> reviews/ this to go in for quite some time. I will really appreciate if
> a
> >> committer can help with making progress on this.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ashish
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashish
>
>
>
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Regards,
Ashish

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