If moving to a wither pattern instead of a builder. How will this enforce 
immutability? Eg current PR it is now changing to allow possible change values 
once set.

Or are you proposing to change it to a mutable record? And move to a closable 
record similar to the closing of the headers on send.

How about also the consumer record, is this also being looked at so we don't 
have two very different styles.

Cheers
Mike



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From: isma...@gmail.com <isma...@gmail.com> on behalf of Ismael Juma 
<ism...@juma.me.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:53:45 PM
To: dev@kafka.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] KIP 141 - ProducerRecordBuilder Interface

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Matthias J. Sax <matth...@confluent.io>
wrote:

> I think Ismael's suggestion is a valid alternative.
>
> However, `timestamp` is an optional field and thus we should have at
> least two constructors for this:
>
>  - ProducerRecord(String topic, K key, V value)

 - ProducerRecord(String topic, K key, V value, Long timestamp)
>

Yes, the other one already exists.

Ismael
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