Thanks, Ismael.

I have updated the KIP and the PR.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:37 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:

> Sounds good to me Rajini. Good catch spotting this before it's included in
> a release. :)
>
> Ismael
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For compatibility reasons, we are now using Java rather than Scala for
> all
> > pluggable interfaces including those on the broker. There is already a
> KIP
> > to move Authorizer to Java as well. As we will be removing support for
> Java
> > 7 in the next release, we can also use default methods in Java when we
> need
> > to update pluggable Java interfaces. So the plan is to use Java for all
> new
> > pluggable interfaces.
> >
> > We already have the package org.apache.kafka.server, under which we have
> > the sub-package for policies, so it makes sense to define quota callback
> as
> > a Java interface here too.
> >
> > If there are any concerns, please let me know. Otherwise I will update
> the
> > KIP and the associated PR.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Rajini
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Since there all the comments so far have been addressed, I will start
> > vote
> > > for this KIP.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rajini
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks, Jun.
> > >>
> > >> 11. updatePartitionMetadata() provides all partitions with their
> leaders
> > >> so that callbacks that scale down quotas based on fraction of
> partitions
> > >> hosted on each broker may compute the scaling factor. Callbacks that
> > scale
> > >> up quotas based on the partition count hosted on each broker can
> simply
> > >> filter out the others. I have updated the Javadoc in the KIP.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi, Rajini,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense.
> > >>>
> > >>> 11. We probably want to clarify in the interface that every time when
> > >>> updatePartitionMetadata() is called, the full list of partitions
> whose
> > >>> leader is on this broker will be passed in?
> > >>>
> > >>> Jun
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >>> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hi Jun,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 12. Sorry, I had to revert the change that removed `
> > >>> > ClientQuotaCallback.quotaLimit()`. We are allowing quota callbacks
> > to
> > >>> use
> > >>> > custom metric tags. For each request, quota manager uses `
> > >>> > ClientQuotaCallback.quota()` to map (user-principal, client-id) to
> > the
> > >>> > metric tags that determine which clients share the quota. When
> quotas
> > >>> are
> > >>> > updated using  `updateQuota` or `updatePartitionMetadata`, existing
> > >>> metrics
> > >>> > need to updated, but quota managers don't have a reverse mapping of
> > >>> metric
> > >>> > tags to (user-principal, client-id) for
> invoking`ClientQuotaCallback.
> > >>> > quota()
> > >>> > ` . Callbacks cannot return all updated metrics since they don't
> have
> > >>> > access to the metrics object and we don't want to require callbacks
> > to
> > >>> > track all the entities for which metrics have been created (since
> > they
> > >>> may
> > >>> > contain client-ids and hence need expiring). With the extra method,
> > >>> quota
> > >>> > manager traverses the metric list after `updateQuota` or `
> > >>> > updatePartitionMetadata` and obtains the latest value corresponding
> > to
> > >>> each
> > >>> > metric based on the tags using `ClientQuotaCallback.quotaLimit()`.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > An alternative may be to delay quota metrics updates until the next
> > >>> request
> > >>> > that uses the metric. When we get sensors, we can check if the
> quota
> > >>> > configured in the metric matches the value returned by `
> > >>> > ClientQuotaCallback.quota()`. This will be slightly more expensive
> > >>> since we
> > >>> > need to check on every request, but the callback API as well as the
> > >>> quota
> > >>> > manager update code path would be simpler. What do you think?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Rajini
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > >>> rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Hi Jun,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thank you for reviewing the KIP.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > 10. This is the current behaviour (this KIP retains the same
> > >>> behaviour
> > >>> > for
> > >>> > > the default quota callback). We include 'user' and 'client-id'
> tags
> > >>> in
> > >>> > > all the quota metrics, rather than omit tags at the moment.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > 11. Ah, I hadn't realised that. I wasn't expecting to include
> > deleted
> > >>> > > partitions in updatePartitionMetadata. I have updated the Javadoc
> > in
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > KIP to reflect that.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > 12. When quotas are updated as a result of `updateQuota` or `
> > >>> > > updatePartitionMetadata`, we may need to update quota bound for
> one
> > >>> or
> > >>> > > more existing metrics. I didn't want to expose metrics to the
> > >>> callback.
> > >>> > So `
> > >>> > > quotaLimit` was providing the new quotas corresponding to
> existing
> > >>> > > metrics. But perhaps a neater way to do this is to return updated
> > >>> quotas
> > >>> > as
> > >>> > > the return value of `updateQuota` and `updatePartitionMetadata`
> so
> > >>> that
> > >>> > > the quota manager can handle metrics updates for those. I have
> > >>> updated
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > KIP.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >> Hi, Rajini,
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Thanks for the KIP. Looks good overall. A few comments below.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> 10. "If <user> quota config is used, *user* tag is set to user
> > >>> principal
> > >>> > >> of
> > >>> > >> the session and *client-id* tag is set to empty string. " Could
> we
> > >>> just
> > >>> > >> omit such a tag if the value is empty?
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> 11. I think Viktor has a valid point on handling partition
> > removal.
> > >>> > >> Currently, we use -2 as the leader to signal the deletion of a
> > >>> > partition.
> > >>> > >> Not sure if we want to depend on that in the interface since
> it's
> > an
> > >>> > >> internal value.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> 12. Could you explain a bit more the need for quotaLimit()? This
> > is
> > >>> > called
> > >>> > >> after the updateQuota() call. Could we just let updateQuota do
> > what
> > >>> > >> quotaLimit()
> > >>> > >> does?
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Jun
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > >>> > rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> > Hi all,
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > I have submitted KIP-257 to enable customisation of client
> quota
> > >>> > >> > computation:
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > >>> > >> > 257+-+Configurable+Quota+Management
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > The KIP proposes to make quota management pluggable to enable
> > >>> > >> group-based
> > >>> > >> > and partition-based quotas for clients.
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Feedback and suggestions are welcome.
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Thank you...
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Regards,
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Rajini
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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