Hey,

Sorry for the late follow up. I just had a couple of minor questions about
details:

* Some of the public API being added is under a runtime package. But that
would be new for public API -- currently only things under the runtime
package use that package name. I think changing the package name to just be
under o.a.k.connect.rest or something like that would better keep this
distinction clear and would also help shorten it a bit -- the packages are
getting quite deeply nested with some of the new naming.
* The cluster state classes probably shouldn't be under a rest package.
That's where we're exposing them for public APIs currently, but it's not
really specific to REST stuff in any way. I think we should house those
somewhere more generic so they won't be awkward to reuse if we decided to
(e.g. you could imagine extensions that provide this directly for metrics.
* Currently we have the State classes nested inside ConnectorHealth class.
I think this makes those classes more annoying to use. Is there a reason
for them to be nested or can we just pull them out to the same level as
ConnectorHealth?

-Ewen

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:30 AM Magesh Nandakumar <mage...@confluent.io>
wrote:

> Randall- I think I have addressed all the comments. Let me know if we can
> take this to Vote.
>
> Thanks
> Magesh
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 10:12 PM, Magesh Nandakumar <mage...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have updated the KIP to reflect changes based on the PR
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/4931. Its mostly has minor changes
> > to the interfaces and includes details on packages for the interfaces and
> > the classes. Let me know your thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Magesh
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Great work, Magesh. I like the overall approach a lot, so I left some
> >> pretty nuanced comments about specific details.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Randall
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> mage...@confluent.io>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Randall for your thoughts. I have created a replica of the
> >> required
> >> > entities in the draft implementation. If you can take a look at the PR
> >> and
> >> > let me know your thoughts, I will update the KIP to reflect the same
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/4931
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Magesh, I think our last emails cross in mid-stream.
> >> > >
> >> > > We definitely want to put the new public interfaces/classes in the
> API
> >> > > module, and implementation in the runtime module. Yes, this will
> >> affect
> >> > the
> >> > > design, since for example we don't want to expose runtime types to
> the
> >> > API,
> >> > > and we want to prevent breaking changes. We don't really want to
> move
> >> the
> >> > > REST entities if we don't have to, since that may break projects
> that
> >> are
> >> > > extending the runtime module -- even though the runtime module is
> not
> >> a
> >> > > public API we still want to _try_ to change things.
> >> > >
> >> > > Do you want to try to create a prototype to see what kind of impact
> >> and
> >> > > choices we'll have to make?
> >> > >
> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Randall
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Thanks for updating the KIP, Magesh. You've resolved all of my
> >> > concerns,
> >> > > > though I have one more: we should specify the package names for
> all
> >> new
> >> > > > interfaces/classes.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm looking forward to more feedback from others.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Randall
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:17 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> >> > > mage...@confluent.io>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi All,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I have updated the KIP with following changes
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>    1. Expanded the Motivation section
> >> > > >>    2. Included details about the interface in the public
> interface
> >> > > section
> >> > > >>    3. Modified the config name to rest.extension.classes
> >> > > >>    4. Modified the ConnectRestExtension to include Configurable
> >> > instead
> >> > > of
> >> > > >>    ResourceConfig
> >> > > >>    5. Modified the "Rest Extension Integration with Connect" in
> >> > > "Proposed
> >> > > >>    Approach" to include a new Custom implementation for
> >> Configurable
> >> > > >>    6. Provided examples for the Java Service provider mechanism
> >> > > >>    7. Included a reference implementation in scope
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Kindly let me know your thoughts on the updates.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Thanks
> >> > > >> Magesh
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> >> > > mage...@confluent.io
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Hi Randall,
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Thanks for your feedback. I also would like to go with
> >> > > >> > rest.extension.classes`.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > For exposing Configurable, my original intention was just to
> >> expose
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> > to the extension because that's all one needs to register JAX
> RS
> >> > > >> resources.
> >> > > >> > The fact that we use Jersey shouldn't even be exposed in the
> >> > > interface.
> >> > > >> > Hence it doesn't affect the public API by any means.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > I will update the KIP and let everyone know.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Thanks
> >> > > >> > Magesh
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Randall Hauch <
> rha...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> >> > > >> mage...@confluent.io
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > Hi Randall,
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Thanks a lot for your feedback.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > I will update the KIP to reflect your comments in (1), (2),
> >> (7)
> >> > and
> >> > > >> (8).
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Looking forward to these.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > For comment # (3) , while it would be great to automatically
> >> > > >> configure
> >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > >> >> > Rest Extensions, I would prefer that to be specified
> >> explicitly.
> >> > > Lets
> >> > > >> >> > assume a connector archive includes a implementation for the
> >> > > >> >> RestExtension
> >> > > >> >> > to do authentication using some header. We don't want this
> to
> >> be
> >> > > >> >> > automatically included. Having said that I think that the
> >> config
> >> > > key
> >> > > >> >> name
> >> > > >> >> > should probably be changed to something like
> "rest.extension"
> >> or
> >> > > >> >> > "rest.extension.class".
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> That's a good point. I do like `rest.extension.class` (or
> >> > > `..classes`?)
> >> > > >> >> much more than `rest.plugins`.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > For the comment regarding the resource loading into jersey,
> I
> >> > have
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> > following proposal
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Create an implementation of Configurable(
> >> > > >> >> >
> https://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/javax/ws/rs/core/Config
> >> > > >> urable.html
> >> > > >> >> )
> >> > > >> >> > that delegates to ResourceConfig. In the
> >> ConnectRestExtension, we
> >> > > >> would
> >> > > >> >> > expose only Configurable which is sufficient enough to
> >> register
> >> > new
> >> > > >> >> > resources. In the new implementation, we will check if the
> >> > resource
> >> > > >> is
> >> > > >> >> > already registered using ResourceConfig.isRegistered()
> method
> >> and
> >> > > >> log a
> >> > > >> >> > warning if the resource is already registered. This will
> make
> >> it
> >> > a
> >> > > >> >> > deterministic behavior and avoid any potential
> >> re-registrations.
> >> > > Let
> >> > > >> me
> >> > > >> >> > know your thoughts on these.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> This sounds a good idea. Is it as flexible as the current
> >> proposal?
> >> > > If
> >> > > >> >> not,
> >> > > >> >> then I'd love to see how this affects the public APIs.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Thanks
> >> > > >> >> > Magesh
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Randall Hauch <
> >> > rha...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > > Very nice proposal, Magesh. I like the approach and the
> new
> >> > > >> concepts
> >> > > >> >> and
> >> > > >> >> > > interfaces, but I do have a few comments/suggestions about
> >> some
> >> > > >> >> specific
> >> > > >> >> > > details:
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > >    1. In the "Motivation" section, perhaps it makes sense
> to
> >> > > >> briefly
> >> > > >> >> > >    describe one or two somewhat concrete examples of how
> >> this
> >> > is
> >> > > >> >> useful.
> >> > > >> >> > >    2. Maybe in the "Public Interfaces" section you could
> >> > briefly
> >> > > >> >> describe
> >> > > >> >> > >    each of the interfaces, what they represent, and which
> >> are
> >> > > >> >> implemented
> >> > > >> >> > > by
> >> > > >> >> > >    the framework vs implemented by an extension. I think
> >> it'd
> >> > > help
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> >> > > explain
> >> > > >> >> > >    that only the `ConnectRestPlugin` needs to be
> >> implemented,
> >> > and
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> > rest
> >> > > >> >> > >    will be provided by the framework. I know the next
> >> section
> >> > > goes
> >> > > >> >> into
> >> > > >> >> > it
> >> > > >> >> > > a
> >> > > >> >> > >    bit, but it'd be useful in this section when first
> >> talking
> >> > > about
> >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > >> >> > new
> >> > > >> >> > >    interfaces.
> >> > > >> >> > >    3. Also in the "Public Interfaces" section: I don't
> >> think we
> >> > > >> should
> >> > > >> >> > >    introduce a "rest.plugins" configuration property.
> >> Instead,
> >> > > can
> >> > > >> we
> >> > > >> >> not
> >> > > >> >> > > just
> >> > > >> >> > >    instantiate and call all of the ConnectRestPlugins that
> >> we
> >> > > find
> >> > > >> on
> >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > >> >> > >    plugin path? Besides, it seems too close to the
> >> > `plugin.path`
> >> > > >> >> > > configuration
> >> > > >> >> > >    property.
> >> > > >> >> > >    4. Why would the implementation register Connect
> >> resources
> >> > > >> *after*
> >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > >> >> > >    plugins, if Jersey currently registers only the first
> >> one?
> >> > The
> >> > > >> >> > "Rejected
> >> > > >> >> > >    Alternatives" mentions why, but this section should be
> >> > > explicit
> >> > > >> >> about
> >> > > >> >> > > why.
> >> > > >> >> > >    For example, "The plugin's would be registered in the
> >> > > >> >> > >    RestServer.start(Herder herder) method before
> registering
> >> > the
> >> > > >> >> default
> >> > > >> >> > >    Connect resources, which ensures that plugins cannot
> >> remove
> >> > > >> Connect
> >> > > >> >> > >    resources."
> >> > > >> >> > >    5. "Hence, it is recommended that the plugins don't
> >> > > re-register
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> > >    default Connect Resources. This could potentially lead
> to
> >> > > >> >> unexpected
> >> > > >> >> > >    errors." First, we should not say "recommended" and
> >> should
> >> > > just
> >> > > >> say
> >> > > >> >> > > plugins
> >> > > >> >> > >    should not register any resources that conflict with
> the
> >> > > >> built-in
> >> > > >> >> > > Connect
> >> > > >> >> > >    resources. Second, if the worker does find conflicts,
> >> can we
> >> > > >> just
> >> > > >> >> > remove
> >> > > >> >> > >    them before adding the built-in Connect resources?
> >> > > >> >> > >    6. Is it possible for implementations to check whether
> >> > > resources
> >> > > >> >> > already
> >> > > >> >> > >    exist before registering their own? If so, we should
> >> > recommend
> >> > > >> that
> >> > > >> >> > >    implementations do this and log any problems.
> >> > > >> >> > >    7. We should be explicit that the "Service Provider" is
> >> > Java's
> >> > > >> >> Service
> >> > > >> >> > >    Provider API. We also need to be explicit that an
> >> > > implementation
> >> > > >> >> must
> >> > > >> >> > >    provide a `META-INF/services/org.apache.kafka.connect.
> >> > > >> >> > > ConnectRestPlugin`
> >> > > >> >> > >    file (or whatever the package name of the
> >> > `ConnectRestPlugin`
> >> > > >> will
> >> > > >> >> be)
> >> > > >> >> > > with
> >> > > >> >> > >    the fully-qualified name of the implementation
> class(es).
> >> > > >> >> > >    8. The example should include the META-INF file
> required
> >> by
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> >> > Service
> >> > > >> >> > >    Provider API.
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > Again, overall this is really great!
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > Randall
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> >> > > >> >> > mage...@confluent.io>
> >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Hi,
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > We have posted KIP-285: Connect Rest Extension Plugin to
> >> add
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> >> > ability
> >> > > >> >> > > to
> >> > > >> >> > > > provide Rest Extensions to Connect Rest API.
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> >> > > >> >> > > > 285%3A+Connect+Rest+Extension+Plugin
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Please take a look. Your feedback is appreciated.
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Magesh
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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> >>
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