Hi All,

I have updated the KIP to reflect changes based on the PR
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/4931. Its mostly has minor changes to
the interfaces and includes details on packages for the interfaces and the
classes. Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks
Magesh

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great work, Magesh. I like the overall approach a lot, so I left some
> pretty nuanced comments about specific details.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Randall
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Magesh Nandakumar <mage...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Randall for your thoughts. I have created a replica of the
> required
> > entities in the draft implementation. If you can take a look at the PR
> and
> > let me know your thoughts, I will update the KIP to reflect the same
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/4931
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Magesh, I think our last emails cross in mid-stream.
> > >
> > > We definitely want to put the new public interfaces/classes in the API
> > > module, and implementation in the runtime module. Yes, this will affect
> > the
> > > design, since for example we don't want to expose runtime types to the
> > API,
> > > and we want to prevent breaking changes. We don't really want to move
> the
> > > REST entities if we don't have to, since that may break projects that
> are
> > > extending the runtime module -- even though the runtime module is not a
> > > public API we still want to _try_ to change things.
> > >
> > > Do you want to try to create a prototype to see what kind of impact and
> > > choices we'll have to make?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Randall
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for updating the KIP, Magesh. You've resolved all of my
> > concerns,
> > > > though I have one more: we should specify the package names for all
> new
> > > > interfaces/classes.
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking forward to more feedback from others.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Randall
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:17 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> > > mage...@confluent.io>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have updated the KIP with following changes
> > > >>
> > > >>    1. Expanded the Motivation section
> > > >>    2. Included details about the interface in the public interface
> > > section
> > > >>    3. Modified the config name to rest.extension.classes
> > > >>    4. Modified the ConnectRestExtension to include Configurable
> > instead
> > > of
> > > >>    ResourceConfig
> > > >>    5. Modified the "Rest Extension Integration with Connect" in
> > > "Proposed
> > > >>    Approach" to include a new Custom implementation for Configurable
> > > >>    6. Provided examples for the Java Service provider mechanism
> > > >>    7. Included a reference implementation in scope
> > > >>
> > > >> Kindly let me know your thoughts on the updates.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> Magesh
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> > > mage...@confluent.io
> > > >> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Randall,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks for your feedback. I also would like to go with
> > > >> > rest.extension.classes`.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For exposing Configurable, my original intention was just to
> expose
> > > that
> > > >> > to the extension because that's all one needs to register JAX RS
> > > >> resources.
> > > >> > The fact that we use Jersey shouldn't even be exposed in the
> > > interface.
> > > >> > Hence it doesn't affect the public API by any means.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I will update the KIP and let everyone know.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > Magesh
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> > > >> mage...@confluent.io
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Hi Randall,
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Thanks a lot for your feedback.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I will update the KIP to reflect your comments in (1), (2), (7)
> > and
> > > >> (8).
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Looking forward to these.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > For comment # (3) , while it would be great to automatically
> > > >> configure
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> > Rest Extensions, I would prefer that to be specified
> explicitly.
> > > Lets
> > > >> >> > assume a connector archive includes a implementation for the
> > > >> >> RestExtension
> > > >> >> > to do authentication using some header. We don't want this to
> be
> > > >> >> > automatically included. Having said that I think that the
> config
> > > key
> > > >> >> name
> > > >> >> > should probably be changed to something like "rest.extension"
> or
> > > >> >> > "rest.extension.class".
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> That's a good point. I do like `rest.extension.class` (or
> > > `..classes`?)
> > > >> >> much more than `rest.plugins`.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > For the comment regarding the resource loading into jersey, I
> > have
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> > following proposal
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Create an implementation of Configurable(
> > > >> >> > https://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/javax/ws/rs/core/Config
> > > >> urable.html
> > > >> >> )
> > > >> >> > that delegates to ResourceConfig. In the ConnectRestExtension,
> we
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> > expose only Configurable which is sufficient enough to register
> > new
> > > >> >> > resources. In the new implementation, we will check if the
> > resource
> > > >> is
> > > >> >> > already registered using ResourceConfig.isRegistered() method
> and
> > > >> log a
> > > >> >> > warning if the resource is already registered. This will make
> it
> > a
> > > >> >> > deterministic behavior and avoid any potential
> re-registrations.
> > > Let
> > > >> me
> > > >> >> > know your thoughts on these.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> This sounds a good idea. Is it as flexible as the current
> proposal?
> > > If
> > > >> >> not,
> > > >> >> then I'd love to see how this affects the public APIs.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > >> >> > Magesh
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Randall Hauch <
> > rha...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > Very nice proposal, Magesh. I like the approach and the new
> > > >> concepts
> > > >> >> and
> > > >> >> > > interfaces, but I do have a few comments/suggestions about
> some
> > > >> >> specific
> > > >> >> > > details:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >    1. In the "Motivation" section, perhaps it makes sense to
> > > >> briefly
> > > >> >> > >    describe one or two somewhat concrete examples of how this
> > is
> > > >> >> useful.
> > > >> >> > >    2. Maybe in the "Public Interfaces" section you could
> > briefly
> > > >> >> describe
> > > >> >> > >    each of the interfaces, what they represent, and which are
> > > >> >> implemented
> > > >> >> > > by
> > > >> >> > >    the framework vs implemented by an extension. I think it'd
> > > help
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> > > explain
> > > >> >> > >    that only the `ConnectRestPlugin` needs to be implemented,
> > and
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> > rest
> > > >> >> > >    will be provided by the framework. I know the next section
> > > goes
> > > >> >> into
> > > >> >> > it
> > > >> >> > > a
> > > >> >> > >    bit, but it'd be useful in this section when first talking
> > > about
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> > new
> > > >> >> > >    interfaces.
> > > >> >> > >    3. Also in the "Public Interfaces" section: I don't think
> we
> > > >> should
> > > >> >> > >    introduce a "rest.plugins" configuration property.
> Instead,
> > > can
> > > >> we
> > > >> >> not
> > > >> >> > > just
> > > >> >> > >    instantiate and call all of the ConnectRestPlugins that we
> > > find
> > > >> on
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> > >    plugin path? Besides, it seems too close to the
> > `plugin.path`
> > > >> >> > > configuration
> > > >> >> > >    property.
> > > >> >> > >    4. Why would the implementation register Connect resources
> > > >> *after*
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> > >    plugins, if Jersey currently registers only the first one?
> > The
> > > >> >> > "Rejected
> > > >> >> > >    Alternatives" mentions why, but this section should be
> > > explicit
> > > >> >> about
> > > >> >> > > why.
> > > >> >> > >    For example, "The plugin's would be registered in the
> > > >> >> > >    RestServer.start(Herder herder) method before registering
> > the
> > > >> >> default
> > > >> >> > >    Connect resources, which ensures that plugins cannot
> remove
> > > >> Connect
> > > >> >> > >    resources."
> > > >> >> > >    5. "Hence, it is recommended that the plugins don't
> > > re-register
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> > >    default Connect Resources. This could potentially lead to
> > > >> >> unexpected
> > > >> >> > >    errors." First, we should not say "recommended" and should
> > > just
> > > >> say
> > > >> >> > > plugins
> > > >> >> > >    should not register any resources that conflict with the
> > > >> built-in
> > > >> >> > > Connect
> > > >> >> > >    resources. Second, if the worker does find conflicts, can
> we
> > > >> just
> > > >> >> > remove
> > > >> >> > >    them before adding the built-in Connect resources?
> > > >> >> > >    6. Is it possible for implementations to check whether
> > > resources
> > > >> >> > already
> > > >> >> > >    exist before registering their own? If so, we should
> > recommend
> > > >> that
> > > >> >> > >    implementations do this and log any problems.
> > > >> >> > >    7. We should be explicit that the "Service Provider" is
> > Java's
> > > >> >> Service
> > > >> >> > >    Provider API. We also need to be explicit that an
> > > implementation
> > > >> >> must
> > > >> >> > >    provide a `META-INF/services/org.apache.kafka.connect.
> > > >> >> > > ConnectRestPlugin`
> > > >> >> > >    file (or whatever the package name of the
> > `ConnectRestPlugin`
> > > >> will
> > > >> >> be)
> > > >> >> > > with
> > > >> >> > >    the fully-qualified name of the implementation class(es).
> > > >> >> > >    8. The example should include the META-INF file required
> by
> > > the
> > > >> >> > Service
> > > >> >> > >    Provider API.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Again, overall this is really great!
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Best regards,
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Randall
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Magesh Nandakumar <
> > > >> >> > mage...@confluent.io>
> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > Hi,
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > We have posted KIP-285: Connect Rest Extension Plugin to
> add
> > > the
> > > >> >> > ability
> > > >> >> > > to
> > > >> >> > > > provide Rest Extensions to Connect Rest API.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > >> >> > > > 285%3A+Connect+Rest+Extension+Plugin
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Please take a look. Your feedback is appreciated.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Magesh
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >
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