Thanks for the update and comments, Maarten. It would be interesting to
hear what others think as well.
-John

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 2:43 PM Maarten Duijn <maartendu...@msn.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the explanation regarding the internals, I have edited the
> KIP accordingly and updated the Javadoc. About the possible data loss when
> altering changelog config, I think we can improve by doing (one of) the
> following.
>
> 1) Add a warning in the comments that clearly states what might happen
> when change logging is disabled and adjust it when persistent stores are
> added.
>
> 2) Change `withLoggingDisabled` to `minimizeLogging`. Instead of disabling
> logging, a call to this method minimizes the topic size by aggressively
> removing the records emitted downstream by the suppress operator. I believe
> this can be achieved by setting `delete.retention.ms=0` in the topic
> config.
>
> 3) Remove `withLoggingDisabled` from the proposal.
>
> 4) Leave both methods as-proposed, as you indicated, this is in line with
> the other parts of the Streams API
>
> A user might want to disable logging when downstream is not a Kafka topic
> but some other service that does not benefit from atleast-once-delivery of
> the suppressed records in case of failover or rebalance.
> Seeing as it might cause data loss, the methods should not be used lightly
> and I think some comments are warranted. Personally, I rely purely on Kafka
> to prevent data loss even when a store persisted locally, so when support
> is added for persistent suppression, I feel the comments may stay.
>
> Maarten
>

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