No problem with that. I'm just explaining how it should work currently.

Just a minor thing, the kar goal is only present on trunk (3.0.0) not on 2.1.x or 2.2.x branches.

Regards
JB

On 03/02/2011 08:09 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
I can see the value if you have a legacy feature and you want to
create a kar for it, but it may be better to deprecate such a goal and
use the kar packaging instead which will also generate the feature
descriptor based on maven informations.
Leveraging maven is better as:
   * you don't have to do some fancy stuff we tried to do when
generating the features file from the maven dependencies anymore (i.e.
mapping non bundles to bundles)
   * you know you have all the dependencies in your local repo
   * you can leverage dependendencies information from maven
(transitive, optional, provided, etc...)
   * you have a single point of configuration for the dependencies / versions
The only drawback is that you need a maven project for each feature,
but that's a consequence of being able to describe the maven
dependencies properly.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 07:34, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<[email protected]>  wrote:
I'm not sure to follow you.

The kar goal is exactly as the add-features-to-repo goal: you start from a
features descriptor (that you wrote by hand) and the goal package the
descriptor and the bundles/dependencies into a repo (kar or local).

Regards
JB

On 03/02/2011 07:34 AM, David Jencks wrote:

OK, but you are in a maven environment.  You've now disconnected the
versions in the features.xml which you are presumably maintaining by hand
from those in your maven poms.  I consider that a non-starter.

My point is that you want to construct the features.xml from maven
dependencies in the first place.  At the same time you can construct the
kar, including (some of) the dependencies.

happy to be convinced otherwise...
thanks
david jencks

On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

The main advantage is that it starts from the features descriptor. So you
simply define the features what you want to embed in the Kar and the plugin
is responsible to download and embed all bundle dependencies.

For instance, in place of having:

<dependencies>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
  <dependency .../>
</dependendies>

you simple have in the plugin
<configuration>
  <features>myfeature</features>
</configuration>

So the POM is light, the version is defined in the features descriptor
and it manages transitive dependencies to others features.

Regards
JB

On 03/02/2011 07:00 AM, David Jencks wrote:

I might understand what the archive-kar goal does now, from the jira
issue.

I would like to suggest that we eliminate this goal and just use the kar
packaging which generates both the features.xml and the kar from the maven
dependencies.

When would the archive-kar goal be useful compared to the kar packaging?

thanks
david jencks

On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Hi guys,

The purpose of the kar goal is to take a features descriptor and
package the features descriptor and the related bundle into a kar archive
(that's it's a goal of the features maven plugin).
The kar deployer create a repo for these bundles.
I raised KARAF-459 about that. At least, the kar goals should take an
argument to define if the bundle are embedded in the kar or not.
But, if the kar doesn't embed the bundle, what's the advantage of using
a kar more than directly drop the features descriptor into the deploy
directory :)

Regards
JB

On 03/01/2011 11:40 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I couldn't quite understand what the docs expected.  What I think is
usable is the (undocumented) kar packaging which ought to look something
like this:

<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0";
                 xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
                 xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0

http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd";>

  <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>

  <groupId>hibernate-osgi</groupId>
  <artifactId>hibernate-osgi</artifactId>
  <version>0.0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
  <packaging>kar</packaging>
  <name>hibernate-osgi</name>

<dependencies>
<!-- put in the bundles you want in the features.xml and kar as
dependencies -->
</dependencies>

  <build>
        <plugins>
                <plugin>
                        <groupId>org.apache.karaf.tooling</groupId>
                        <artifactId>features-maven-plugin</artifactId>
                        <version>2.99.99-SNAPSHOT</version>
                        <extensions>true</extensions>
                </plugin>
        </plugins>
  </build>

</project>

This should generate a features.xml file inside the kar and include
the bundles you mentioned as entries in the feature.xml and copied into the
kar.

thanks
david jencks

On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:15 PM, karafman wrote:

To test the KAR feature, I compiled the trunk and executed the
following
pom.xml file:
<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0";
                 xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
                 xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0

http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd";>

  <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>

  <groupId>hibernate-osgi</groupId>
  <artifactId>hibernate-osgi</artifactId>
  <version>0.0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
  <packaging>pom</packaging>
  <name>hibernate-osgi</name>

  <build>
        <plugins>
                <plugin>
                        <groupId>org.apache.karaf.tooling</groupId>
                        <artifactId>features-maven-plugin</artifactId>
                        <version>2.99.99-SNAPSHOT</version>
                        <executions>
                                <execution>
                                        <id>archive-kar</id>
                                        <goals>

  <goal>archive-kar</goal>
                                        </goals>
                                        <configuration>

<featuresFile>src/main/resources/features.xml</featuresFile>
                                        </configuration>
                                </execution>
                        </executions>
                </plugin>
        </plugins>
  </build>

</project>

Using this features.xml file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<features>
               <feature name="hibernate" version="3.3.2.GA">


<bundle>mvn:javax.xml.stream/com.springsource.javax.xml.stream/1.0.1</bundle>

  <bundle>mvn:org.dom4j/com.springsource.org.dom4j/1.6.1</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.jboss.javassist/com.springsource.javassist/3.9.0.GA</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:javax.persistence/com.springsource.javax.persistence/1.0.0</bundle>

  <bundle>mvn:org.antlr/com.springsource.antlr/2.7.7</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:net.sourceforge.cglib/com.springsource.net.sf.cglib/2.2.0</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.apache.commons/com.springsource.org.apache.commons.collections/3.2.1</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.apache.commons/com.springsource.org.apache.commons.logging/1.1.1</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.objectweb.asm/com.springsource.org.objectweb.asm/1.5.3</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.objectweb.asm/com.springsource.org.objectweb.asm.attrs/1.5.3</bundle>

  <bundle>mvn:org.hibernate/com.springsource.org.hibernate/3.3.2.GA</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.hibernate/com.springsource.org.hibernate.annotations/3.3.1.ga</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.hibernate/com.springsource.org.hibernate.annotations.common/3.3.0.ga</bundle>


<bundle>mvn:org.hibernate/com.springsource.org.hibernate.ejb/3.3.2.GA</bundle>
        </feature>
</features>

The .kar file created didn't contain any of the bundles, just the
features.xml file.  The expected behavior is to (according to
http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.2.1-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/kar.html):
The kar-archive goal:
1. Reads all features specified in the features descriptor.
2. For each feature, it resolves the bundles defined in the feature.
3. All bundles are packaged into the kar archive.

So, it appears the KAR feature is not doing what is stated in the
docs.  I
suggest we either change the documentation, or the archive-kar goal.

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