Hi,

I like that proposal. +1

2011/3/2 David Jencks <[email protected]>:
> this sure has gotten long :-)
>
> Lets see if I can summarize... maybe we can double the length...
>
> First, the features.xml generation and kar assembly are done in separate 
> mojos, and the feature packaging stops after feature generation whereas the 
> kar packaging generates the features.xml and then assembles a kar.
>
> Features generation:
> I think we all agree that the output from features generation should express 
> pretty much all the options available in a features.xml.  Some of these are 
> going to be easy to derive from pom dependencies and other native pom 
> information, some are going to be easy to derive from maven plugin 
> configuration, and some are going to be easier to express in a source 
> features.xml that is modified.
>
> The one thing that the current features generation doesn't do is include more 
> than one feature in a generated features.xml.  I'm not sure how important 
> this is.  One option should we decide to support it would be to have a plugin 
> configuration option that includes the features from maven dependencies that 
> are features.  In other words, in a features or kar project A,  if one of the 
> maven dependencies B is a features packaging project, we would include the 
> features from B's feature.xml in the generated features.xml for A.
>
> kar assembly:
> I think there's supposed to be way of controlling whether a dependency gets 
> included in the kar, I'm not sure if that's implemented yet.
> We might want more flexibility about where resources get unpacked on 
> installation.
>
> validation:
> I think this is the main area of controversy.  There are two aspects:
> 1. should we validate that dependencies mentioned in the preexisting 
> features.xml are also (transitive) maven dependencies of the project
> 2. should we include dependencies mentioned in the preexisting features.xml 
> that are not known to maven in a kar.
>
> My answer to these are 1 yes, 2 no.  (2 is only relevant if you answer 1 no).
> 2: if maven doesn't know about a dependency, then you need a way outside 
> maven to find the dependency in order to include it in the kar.  I guess this 
> would involve configuring the pax-mvn-url stuff.  But this duplicates maven 
> configuration.  This is just a bad idea and pretty much guarantees a 
> non-portable build.
>
> 1. I think this is usually a good idea, but essential for kar packaging.  I'd 
> be OK with having an option to turn it off for standalone feature packaging, 
> especially for non-mvn url dependencies.
>
> -------------
>
> We might start needing some more concrete examples to focus the discussion.  
> For instance seeing what Adrian means by "ergonomic" might be useful and 
> insteresting.
>
> And as a side note.... karaf 3 is java 6 so it should be OK now to move the 
> jaxb classes from tooling into the feature deployer runtime?
>
> thanks
> david jencks

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