+1 2012/8/9 Johan Edstrom <seij...@gmail.com>: > I actually completely disagree. > I don't think delaying a start is good, I think logging / screaming why it > isn't starting might be good. > > On Aug 9, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: > >> I mostly agree besides for the default. I think we all agree that the >> delayed start of the console is the better option for beginners while >> a lot of karaf developers like the console that starts directly. >> >> For this reason I think we should have the delayed start as default for two >> reasons: >> 1. We are only a handfull of developers while there are thousands of users >> and most are beginners or at least do not have a deep understanding of karaf. >> 2. The delayed start is a nice out of the box experience for people who >> start karaf for the first time. Especially the beginners will not find the >> option to turn this on easily >> >> Christian >> >> Am 09.08.2012 19:40, schrieb Ioannis Canellos: >>> I've read a lot of interesting opinions and I'd like to share mine: >>> >>> i) The Karaf shell should start asap, unless explicitly configured. The >>> enter thing is nice but should be optional imho. >>> ii) Determining when Karaf is started is one thing, determining when an >>> application is started is another. >>> iii) A log entry that says Karaf has started sounds enough, we can >>> optionally provide that info through the info command. >>> iv) Different users have different needs on what started means. To cover >>> all cases we could allow the user to use a configuration file that will >>> contain requirements (package, service etc) and have everyone configure it >>> however he wishes. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Christian Schneider >> http://www.liquid-reality.de >> >> Open Source Architect >> Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com >> >
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