Isn't Geronimo based on Karaf now? If so isn't that a better place to
unify Karaf & EE? I'm all for diversity and competing implementations;
I just don't grok how KarafEE would differ from Geronimo; is there
something KarafEE would do differently to Geronimo from a Karaf
perspective?

On 16 May 2013 08:21, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> wrote:
> BTW. As we have spend time and efforts with Romain to develop KarafEE, this
> is really stupid to loose the code and creating a Karaf subproject is a
> excellent idea for that purpose. Moreover, as the goal of KarafEE will be
> slightly different from Geronimo, this project is also very important to
> host EE features of Karaf (JTA, JPA, ...).
> The Enterprise features of Karaf could be part of that subproject while
> Karaf will continue to propose the Standard features file (Spring,
> Blueprint, Web, HTTP, Management, ...)
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Achim Nierbeck 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> I really like the idea of the KarafEE project, though right now I have some
>> doubts.
>> First of all it looks like it's being a orphaned sub-project at the TomEE
>> Project, so
>> yes this makes it valid to ask for a transfer, but who's gonna be the main
>> maintainer for it?
>> Right now we have about already about 4 different subprojects of wich only
>> one is really maintained
>> right now. EIK for example the main committer just vanished after the
>> sources had been moved.
>> I really don't want to end up with another orphaned sub-project in the
>> karaf space, especially
>> since right now we're lacking some manpower.
>>
>> We still get enough votes for releases, that's a good sign.
>> On the other hand my gut feeling tells me we're having a decreasing size of
>> active committers for about 6 to 9 Month.
>> But this is just my humble opinion, I really would love to be proven wrong
>> :D
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>>
>> > Hi Charles,
>> >
>> > wonder if it shouldn't just be a subproject of Geronimo which is already
>> a
>> > JavaEE/OSGi container on top of Karaf
>> >
>> > that said +1 to get it maintained (personally i don't have enough time to
>> > support it as i try to do with TomEE)
>> >
>> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
>> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
>> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
>> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
>> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
>> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about
>> KarafEE
>> > > future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an
>> > attempt
>> > > to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
>> > > OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
>> > > maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.
>> > >
>> > > This is mainly the reason why I contact Karaf Dev Team to propose to
>> > > submit to a vote the following suggestions :
>> > > [1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject
>> > >  [2] : Propose that KarafEE becomes a Karaf subproject supporting OSGI
>> EE
>> > > Features (JTA, JPA, EJB, CDI, ...)
>> > >
>> > > If everybody agree and both votes succeed, then I propose to
>> orchestrate
>> > > the work of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages
>> > > describing goals of the projects, ...
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Charles Moulliard
>> > > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>> > > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Charles Moulliard
> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com



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