So, start 4.x now!  :)  Release early, release often.

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:09 PM,  <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Good points Ioannis,
>
> my point is just about the "message" for we send to the users and community.
>
> You are right, it took long time to release Karaf 3.0.0, but it doesn't mean
> that it would be the same for 4.0.0.
>
> My point is just to send a message for users/community like: "hey, we did
> deep changes" ;)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 2014-02-03 16:24, Ioannis Canellos wrote:
>>>
>>> I would plan this for Karaf 4.0.0, even if it's internal.
>>
>>
>> While I don't have a strong objection on having it as part of a 4.x
>> release, that would mean that it will get pushed back way into the
>> future.
>> 3.x release took us almost 3 years to get out and we stalled 2.3.x for
>> 1.5 year in favour of 3.x.
>>
>> What I take from that experience, is that its not a good idea to push
>> stuff to major releases, when they are candidates for a major release.
>>
>>> It's an important jump internally in Karaf, and should be addressed in a
>>> major release.
>>
>>
>> I agree that this is an important change. Semantic versioning doesn't
>> force us to push "important" changes to major releases. Since we are
>> talking about a change that is transparent to the user, the importance
>> of the change is a good reason to deliver it asap :-)
>>
>>> We just release Karaf 3.0.0, and we have to let people and other projects
>>> to
>>> move smoothly (even if as you said, you should not have impact).
>>
>>
>> This is another good reason, for not rushing a 4.x release.

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