@JB- To be clear, the request is for the log4j2 config file to be in xml or json, not supporting json or xml log formats
@Romain- I think heterogenous is a great goal— however, with complex hierarchal configurations, the “simplicity” of properties is lost in the structure. Default Log4j2 as properties is illegible by any UX/DX standard. As with features, having structured format (ie xml) for complex data is more manageable. The Developer Experience (DX) gap here is dev-on-laptop writing a simple REST service/camel route, etc and then deploying to karaf has a very different experience with logging. This is especially true for developers without a lot of experience and/or are new to karaf. My suggestion is about trying to unify the log4j2 property file so dev laptop to running karaf has the same default and therefore the same DX. -Matt > On Dec 28, 2021, at 1:55 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My 2cts would be that log4j2 or any configuration in karaf should be > homogeneous with other config files. Since OSGi is .cfg (enriched > properties) by design, I think it is better to stick to this or something > very close *by default*. > Making the config formats heterogeneous will make your tooling > heterogeneous too or more complex at least which is not worth it in almost > all cases. > > Romain Manni-Bucau > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance> > > > Le mar. 28 déc. 2021 à 05:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net> a > écrit : > >> By the way, just a reminder: a good point about properties format in >> pax-logging-log4j2 service is that it doesn’t require extra dependency. >> Using xml/json format needs additional dependency/packages/bundles in the >> Karaf distribution. >> Just a side note. >> >> Regards >> JB >> >>> Le 27 déc. 2021 à 19:33, Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> I’ve created a proposal JIRA KARAF-7307 ( >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-7307 < >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-7307>) to track any specifics. >>> >>> As the subject mentions— I think it would be beneficial to users to >> change the default configuration for log4j2 to XML (or maybe JSON). >>> >>> Notes: >>> >>> 1. Documentation for the properties format is fragmented and incomplete— >> especially for advanced features such as routing, etc >>> 2. XML format is the more natural format for log4j2 >>> 3. Allow for developers targeting karaf runtime to use the same >> log4j2.xml config file in their dev projects that is used in karaf runtime >> (using a org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg requires developers to add add’l >> configuration to their code projects) >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matt >>> >>> >> >>
