Hi François,

Thanks for bringing this discussion.

Here's my personal standpoint:
1. Decanter: I started to work on Decanter 3.x (refactoring). I think
we can do a release now with just updates on the collectors/appenders
before moving forward on decanter 3.x. I propose to cut new Decanter
release asap.
2. Cellar: quite the same as Decanter. I plan a refactoring, but it is
worth doing an updated version (new hazelcast, kubernetes client,
karaf version). Same: I propose to cut new Cellar release asp.
3. Cave: I think we don't have many users on Cave, maybe it's worth to
move the project to "attic" ?
4. Winegrower: same as Cave, I don't think we have a lot of users,
maybe it's worth to move the project to "attic" ?
5. Minho:
6. For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
7. For camel-karaf, I'm open to community proposals. If it's better to
have it in Karaf, I'm OK with it (same question about jclouds-karaf).

Regards
JB

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I want to start a thread about Apache Karaf subprojects roadmap and
> maintainability.
>
> Today we have:
>
> - Decanter: last release on Feb. 2022
>
> - Cellar: last release on Aug. 2020
>
> - Cave: last release on Nov. 2019
>
> We also have:
>
> - Winegrower: last release on Nov. 2020
>
> - Minho: last release on Jan. 2023 (but plan to move to dedicated TLP
> project)
>
> There is also some discussion about moving SMX bundle and Camel-Karaf as
> Karaf subprojects so I think it will be nice to see what we would/could
> maintain.
>
> regards,
>
> --
> --
> François
>

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