Hello

I'd like to ask about:

For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
> objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
> Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
> the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
> spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
>

I know that providing OSGi metadata to external 3rd party libs which do not
care about OSGi is a bit PITA... (I remember back in theserverside.com days
I suggested using external metadata instead of one kept in
META-INF/MANIFEST.MF...)
How do you imagine this on the fly generation? kind of like wrap: protocol?

regards
Grzegorz Grzybek

pon., 9 sty 2023 o 10:20 fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> napisał(a):

> Hi JB,
>
> Make sense for Cave and Winegrower.
>
> About Camel-Karaf, as it was announced by the Camel team in the roadmap
> to Camel 4, I was thinking that it was already acted:
>
> https://camel.apache.org/blog/2023/01/camel4roadmap/
>
> I asked the question about the OSGi bundle still provide or not by Camel
> team but no clear decision, Camel team don't want to provide OSGi bundle
> for Camel core anymore.
>
> regards,
>
> François
>
> On 09/01/2023 10:13, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi François,
> >
> > Thanks for bringing this discussion.
> >
> > Here's my personal standpoint:
> > 1. Decanter: I started to work on Decanter 3.x (refactoring). I think
> > we can do a release now with just updates on the collectors/appenders
> > before moving forward on decanter 3.x. I propose to cut new Decanter
> > release asap.
> > 2. Cellar: quite the same as Decanter. I plan a refactoring, but it is
> > worth doing an updated version (new hazelcast, kubernetes client,
> > karaf version). Same: I propose to cut new Cellar release asp.
> > 3. Cave: I think we don't have many users on Cave, maybe it's worth to
> > move the project to "attic" ?
> > 4. Winegrower: same as Cave, I don't think we have a lot of users,
> > maybe it's worth to move the project to "attic" ?
> > 5. Minho:
> > 6. For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
> > objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
> > Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
> > the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
> > spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
> > 7. For camel-karaf, I'm open to community proposals. If it's better to
> > have it in Karaf, I'm OK with it (same question about jclouds-karaf).
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I want to start a thread about Apache Karaf subprojects roadmap and
> >> maintainability.
> >>
> >> Today we have:
> >>
> >> - Decanter: last release on Feb. 2022
> >>
> >> - Cellar: last release on Aug. 2020
> >>
> >> - Cave: last release on Nov. 2019
> >>
> >> We also have:
> >>
> >> - Winegrower: last release on Nov. 2020
> >>
> >> - Minho: last release on Jan. 2023 (but plan to move to dedicated TLP
> >> project)
> >>
> >> There is also some discussion about moving SMX bundle and Camel-Karaf as
> >> Karaf subprojects so I think it will be nice to see what we would/could
> >> maintain.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> François
> >>
> --
> --
> François
>
>

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