Thanks for this input, Alex!! I really appreciated it! <3


On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:06 PM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am ok either way, if it follows the rules.
>
> Tibor
>
> Dňa ut 27. 2. 2024, 17:30 Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> napísal(a):
>
> > +1 for org.apache.sonataflow
> >
> > Craig Russell provided an input early in the branding discussions that
> it’s
> > not required to use the project suffix [1].
> >
> > Based on that, I believe the namespace is not only shorter, but we
> continue
> > to play the strengths of individual modules while keeping the unified
> > experience across all of them under KIE project.
> >
> >
> > [1] -  https://lists.apache.org/thread/vrhxzld4tk0gk8x03yfprnpvgcw61xfy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 7:33 AM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ricardo,
> > >
> > > I guess there is not much room to compromise. We are one Apache
> project -
> > > KIE. There is no separate Apache project called SonataFlow. At least
> from
> > > my perspective.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tibor
> > >
> > > Dňa ut 27. 2. 2024, 13:29 ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > [email protected]>
> > > napísal(a):
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > I'd vote for "org.apache.sonataflow" if we must keep apache in the
> > > > namespace. Adding more levels will have huge classnames in the end.
> > Can't
> > > > we compromise?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 5:27 AM Christofer Dutz <
> > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I agree that this is probably the best option, as it follows the
> > pattern
> > > > > that most Apache projects follow. Otherwise possibly someone would
> > come
> > > > > across the artifact and start searching for sonataflow.apache.org
> > and
> > > > not
> > > > > find anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you’re breaking the naming anyway, I would also opt for doing it
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > standard Apache way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > Von: Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]>
> > > > > Datum: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2024 um 09:00
> > > > > An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > > > Betreff: Re: [HEADS UP] Renaming Kogito SW artifacts to
> > KIE/SonataFlow
> > > > > starting
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > there is a problem with the sonataflow rename. Based on the INFRA
> > ticket
> > > > > (1), we cannot use org.sonataflow, we need to release new artifacts
> > under
> > > > > org.apache. That means, it needs to be either org.apache.sonataflow
> > > > (which
> > > > > we may need to ask permissions for) or org.apache.kie.sonataflow -
> > for
> > > > this
> > > > > I think we may already have publishing permissions. As we are one
> > Apache
> > > > > project - KIE, I personally vote for org.apache.kie.sonataflow.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think please?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Tibor
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25546
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:24 PM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the Quarkus Extensions rename is moving forward. Last week we
> > managed
> > > > to
> > > > > > merge the first PR's that renamed the extensions in* kogito-apps*
> > (#932
> > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/932>) and
> > the
> > > > > > rename
> > > > > > for *jBPM* & *drools* extensions in *kogito-runtimes* (#934
> > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/934>).
> > Today
> > > > > I've
> > > > > > been looking at the *SonataFlow *(#933
> > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/933>)
> > > > extensions
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > already sent the PR's (PR#3417
> > > > > > <
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3417
> > >,
> > > > > > PR#2003 <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/pull/2003
> > > > >
> > > > > &
> > > > > > PR#1881 <
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1881
> > > > > > >)
> > > > > > the change is small and hopefully we could merge today /
> tomorrow,
> > > > > > so @Ricardo if you could take a look I'd appreciate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm going to spend the next couple of days working on the final
> > task to
> > > > > > rename the missing Kie & Kogito extensions so we can wrap up the
> > > > > renaming.
> > > > > > I expect some big PR's with this changes, but hopefully we'll
> have
> > it
> > > > > ready
> > > > > > by Wednesday or so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pere
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 at 15:59, ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Pere! Many thanks for this work! Are you planning to rename
> > > > > > SonataFlow
> > > > > > > too? If you could do that, I would gently accept your help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 2:12 PM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
> > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just wanted to let you know that today I have started the
> > > > > extension's
> > > > > > > > renaming based on the proposal's
> > > > > > > > <
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/5s0qrznbhgxnnc1wq4vkl56chvcckr98>
> > > > > > > > spreadsheet
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gsttRcXGtwGQO469EYFDhLxJLEA7Kl3gmioR6XhGhjY/edit#gid=0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I created some issues to spread the work in different areas,
> so
> > the
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > could be tackled in parallel (if anyone can join the effort)
> > and at
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > time will result in smaller PR's easier to review and test:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    - #932 <
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/932
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > Rename
> > > > > > > >    Quarkus Extensions in kogito-apps (ongoing)
> > > > > > > >    - #933 <
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/933
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > Rename SonataFlow Quarkus
> > > > > > > >    Extensions in kogito-runtimes
> > > > > > > >    - #934 <
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/934
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > Rename
> > > > > > > >    the jBPM & drools Quarkus Extensions in kogito-runtimes
> > > > > > > >    - #935 <
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/935
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > Rename
> > > > > > > >    kie & kogito Quarkus Extensions in kogito-runtimes
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I started with the extensions in *kogito-apps* repo since I
> > think
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > pretty straightforward and will have less impact in the CI
> > > > > (hopefully).
> > > > > > > As
> > > > > > > > agreed, the focus is to adjust the GAVs so we produce
> artifacts
> > for
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > > extension using the new groups and artifacttids, so there are
> > no
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > > changes in the project structure, packages, folders or images
> > names
> > > > > > > > (data-index, jobs-service & data-audit).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I already sent some PR's (#3410
> > > > > > > > <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3410
> > > > >,
> > > > > > > > #1997
> > > > > > > > <
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/pull/1997
> > >,
> > > > > #1877
> > > > > > > > <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1877
> > > > >)
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > feel free to take a look and drop any comment there.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If everything looks good tomorrow will move forward with
> > > > > > *kogito-runtimes
> > > > > > > > *with
> > > > > > > > the jBPM & drools related extensions and addons.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pere
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tibor Zimanyi
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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