Team, We have an updated feedback with a clear guideline from the Apache VP of Branding Management in the INFRA ticket [1].
I don't think we have any option other than adopt org.apache.kie.sonataflow. [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25546 On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:57 PM Pere Fernandez (apache) <[email protected]> wrote: > > If that's the case I also +1 to* org.apache.sonataflow*. > > > I'll wait until tomorrow and if there's an agreement I'll update the PR's > with the new groupId. > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 18:24, ricardo zanini fernandes < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks for this input, Alex!! I really appreciated it! <3 > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:06 PM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I am ok either way, if it follows the rules. > > > > > > Tibor > > > > > > Dňa ut 27. 2. 2024, 17:30 Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> napísal(a): > > > > > > > +1 for org.apache.sonataflow > > > > > > > > Craig Russell provided an input early in the branding discussions that > > > it’s > > > > not required to use the project suffix [1]. > > > > > > > > Based on that, I believe the namespace is not only shorter, but we > > > continue > > > > to play the strengths of individual modules while keeping the unified > > > > experience across all of them under KIE project. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] - > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/vrhxzld4tk0gk8x03yfprnpvgcw61xfy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 7:33 AM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > > > > > > > > > I guess there is not much room to compromise. We are one Apache > > > project - > > > > > KIE. There is no separate Apache project called SonataFlow. At least > > > from > > > > > my perspective. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Tibor > > > > > > > > > > Dňa ut 27. 2. 2024, 13:29 ricardo zanini fernandes < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > napísal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd vote for "org.apache.sonataflow" if we must keep apache in the > > > > > > namespace. Adding more levels will have huge classnames in the end. > > > > Can't > > > > > > we compromise? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 5:27 AM Christofer Dutz < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that this is probably the best option, as it follows the > > > > pattern > > > > > > > that most Apache projects follow. Otherwise possibly someone > > would > > > > come > > > > > > > across the artifact and start searching for > > sonataflow.apache.org > > > > and > > > > > > not > > > > > > > find anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you’re breaking the naming anyway, I would also opt for doing > > it > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > standard Apache way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Von: Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Datum: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2024 um 09:00 > > > > > > > An: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Betreff: Re: [HEADS UP] Renaming Kogito SW artifacts to > > > > KIE/SonataFlow > > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a problem with the sonataflow rename. Based on the INFRA > > > > ticket > > > > > > > (1), we cannot use org.sonataflow, we need to release new > > artifacts > > > > under > > > > > > > org.apache. That means, it needs to be either > > org.apache.sonataflow > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > we may need to ask permissions for) or org.apache.kie.sonataflow > > - > > > > for > > > > > > this > > > > > > > I think we may already have publishing permissions. As we are one > > > > Apache > > > > > > > project - KIE, I personally vote for org.apache.kie.sonataflow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > Tibor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25546 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:24 PM Pere Fernandez (apache) < > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Quarkus Extensions rename is moving forward. Last week we > > > > managed > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > merge the first PR's that renamed the extensions in* > > kogito-apps* > > > > (#932 > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/932>) > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > rename > > > > > > > > for *jBPM* & *drools* extensions in *kogito-runtimes* (#934 > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/934>). > > > > Today > > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > been looking at the *SonataFlow *(#933 > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/933>) > > > > > > extensions > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > already sent the PR's (PR#3417 > > > > > > > > < > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3417 > > > > >, > > > > > > > > PR#2003 < > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/pull/2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > PR#1881 < > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1881 > > > > > > > > >) > > > > > > > > the change is small and hopefully we could merge today / > > > tomorrow, > > > > > > > > so @Ricardo if you could take a look I'd appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to spend the next couple of days working on the final > > > > task to > > > > > > > > rename the missing Kie & Kogito extensions so we can wrap up > > the > > > > > > > renaming. > > > > > > > > I expect some big PR's with this changes, but hopefully we'll > > > have > > > > it > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > by Wednesday or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 at 15:59, ricardo zanini fernandes < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Pere! Many thanks for this work! Are you planning to > > rename > > > > > > > > SonataFlow > > > > > > > > > too? If you could do that, I would gently accept your help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 2:12 PM Pere Fernandez (apache) < > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to let you know that today I have started the > > > > > > > extension's > > > > > > > > > > renaming based on the proposal's > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/5s0qrznbhgxnnc1wq4vkl56chvcckr98> > > > > > > > > > > spreadsheet > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gsttRcXGtwGQO469EYFDhLxJLEA7Kl3gmioR6XhGhjY/edit#gid=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I created some issues to spread the work in different > > areas, > > > so > > > > the > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > could be tackled in parallel (if anyone can join the > > effort) > > > > and at > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > time will result in smaller PR's easier to review and test: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - #932 < > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/932 > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > Rename > > > > > > > > > > Quarkus Extensions in kogito-apps (ongoing) > > > > > > > > > > - #933 < > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/933 > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > Rename SonataFlow Quarkus > > > > > > > > > > Extensions in kogito-runtimes > > > > > > > > > > - #934 < > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/934 > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > Rename > > > > > > > > > > the jBPM & drools Quarkus Extensions in kogito-runtimes > > > > > > > > > > - #935 < > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/935 > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > Rename > > > > > > > > > > kie & kogito Quarkus Extensions in kogito-runtimes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started with the extensions in *kogito-apps* repo since I > > > > think > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > pretty straightforward and will have less impact in the CI > > > > > > > (hopefully). > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > agreed, the focus is to adjust the GAVs so we produce > > > artifacts > > > > for > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > extension using the new groups and artifacttids, so there > > are > > > > no > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > changes in the project structure, packages, folders or > > images > > > > names > > > > > > > > > > (data-index, jobs-service & data-audit). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already sent some PR's (#3410 > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3410 > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > #1997 > > > > > > > > > > < > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/pull/1997 > > > > >, > > > > > > > #1877 > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1877 > > > > > > >) > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > feel free to take a look and drop any comment there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If everything looks good tomorrow will move forward with > > > > > > > > *kogito-runtimes > > > > > > > > > > *with > > > > > > > > > > the jBPM & drools related extensions and addons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Tibor Zimanyi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
