I do not see any exemption to ASF requirements based on a lib having the classpath exception. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
Apologies, I had a couple of typos in my last mail. Here is the corrected version: Linking to GPL licensed libs is only ok if * we don't ship the lib in our convenience binaries - users need to install it themselves * the KIE product should be able to work without the GPL lib - ie the GPL license lib usage is optional On 2025/08/07 13:11:31 PJ Fanning wrote: > Linking to GPL licensed libs is only ok if > * we don't ship the lib in out convenience binaries - users need to install > it themselves > * the KIE product should work with the GPL lib - ie the GPL license lib usage > is optional > > On 2025/07/23 14:20:31 Jason Porter wrote: > > Okay, cool. As long as we’re all okay with the dependencies and how they > > line up with ASF rules, I’m good. > > > > -- > > Jason Porter > > Software Engineer > > He/Him/His > > > > IBM > > > > > > From: Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> > > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 at 08:19 > > To: dev@kie.apache.org <dev@kie.apache.org> > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DISCUSSION][FYI] Use the external XML and JSON > > Mapper libraries instead our internal copies > > Those would be GPL with classpath exception, which is aligned with JDK > > itself. > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:15 AM Jason Porter <jpor...@ibm.com.invalid> > > wrote: > > > > > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re not able to link to GPL libraries > > > either. That was a sticking point with Hibernate. > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Porter > > > Software Engineer > > > He/Him/His > > > > > > IBM > > > > > > > > > From: Toni Rikkola <rikk...@apache.org> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 at 01:53 > > > To: dev@kie.apache.org <dev@kie.apache.org> > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSSION][FYI] Use the external XML and JSON > > > Mapper libraries instead our internal copies > > > Hi, > > > > > > Currently we have XML and JSON Mapper libraries in KIE that are > > > duplicates of identical libraries outside of our code base. The reason > > > for forking them in was likely due to an old requirement that we need to > > > control all the source at KIE, here at Apache or back at Red Hat. At > > > this moment this is not true, if it ever was. > > > > > > Problem is these libraries are licensed under GPL and if GPL is used > > > inside an ASL project it consumes everything and the project is then GPL. > > > > > > The plan is to remove our fork and use the originals with the GPL > > > linking exception. > > > > > > > > > Related ticket: https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-tools/issues/3196 > > > > > > Related dev list thread: > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/gsj0mxkzwpcgwztz231tr6tnnx9kxd0g > > > > > > Linking exception: > > > https://openjdk.org/legal/gplv2+ce.html > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL_linking_exception > > > > > > > > > Toni Rikkola > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org