Hi Shaofeng,

I'd like to add one more character: cloud-native storage support.
Quite a few users are using S3 on AWS, or Azure Data Lake Storage on
Azure. If new storage engine could be more cloud friendly, more user
could get benefits from it.

With Warm regards

Billy Liu
ShaoFeng Shi <shaofeng...@apache.org> 于2018年9月28日周五 下午2:15写道:
>
> Hi Kylin developers.
>
> HBase has been Kylin’s storage engine since the first day; Kylin on HBase
> has been verified as a success which can support low latency & high
> concurrency queries on a very large data scale. Thanks to HBase, most Kylin
> users can get on average less than 1-second query response.
>
> But we also see some limitations when putting Cubes into HBase; I shared
> some of them in the HBaseConf Asia 2018[1] this August. The typical
> limitations include:
>
>    - Rowkey is the primary index, no secondary index so far;
>
> Filtering by row key’s prefix and suffix can get very different performance
> result. So the user needs to do a good design about the row key; otherwise,
> the query would be slow. This is difficult sometimes because the user might
> not predict the filtering patterns ahead of cube design.
>
>    - HBase is a key-value instead of a columnar storage
>
> Kylin combines multiple measures (columns) into fewer column families for
> smaller data size (row key size is remarkable). This causes HBase often
> needing to read more data than requested.
>
>    - HBase couldn't run on YARN
>
> This makes the deployment and auto-scaling a little complicated, especially
> in the cloud.
>
> In one word, HBase is complicated to be Kylin’s storage. The maintenance,
> debugging is also hard for normal developers. Now we’re planning to seek a
> simple, light-weighted, read-only storage engine for Kylin. The new
> solution should have the following characteristics:
>
>    - Columnar layout with compression for efficient I/O;
>    - Index by each column for quick filtering and seeking;
>    - MapReduce / Spark API for parallel processing;
>    - HDFS compliant for scalability and availability;
>    - Mature, stable and extensible;
>
> With the plugin architecture[2] introduced in Kylin 1.5, adding multiple
> storages to Kylin is possible. Some companies like Kyligence Inc and
> Meituan.com, have developed their customized storage engine for Kylin in
> their product or platform. In their experience, columnar storage is a good
> supplement for the HBase engine. Kaisen Kang from Meituan.com has shared
> their KOD (Kylin on Druid) solution[3] in this August’s Kylin meetup in
> Beijing.
>
> We plan to do a PoC with Apache Parquet + Apache Spark in the next phase.
> Parquet is a standard columnar file format and has been widely supported by
> many projects like Hive, Impala, Drill, etc. Parquet is adding the page
> level column index to support fine-grained filtering.  Apache Spark can
> provide the parallel computing over Parquet and can be deployed on
> YARN/Mesos and Kubernetes. With this combination, the data persistence and
> computation are separated, which makes the scaling in/out much easier than
> before. Benefiting from Spark's flexibility, we can not only push down more
> computation from Kylin to the Hadoop cluster. Except for Parquet, Apache
> ORC is also a candidate.
>
> Now I raise this discussion to get your ideas about Kylin’s next-generation
> storage engine. If you have good ideas or any related data, welcome discuss in
> the community.
>
> Thank you!
>
> [1] Apache Kylin on HBase
> https://www.slideshare.net/ShiShaoFeng1/apache-kylin-on-hbase-extreme-olap-engine-for-big-data
> [2] Apache Kylin Plugin Architecture
> https://kylin.apache.org/development/plugin_arch.html
> [3] 基于Druid的Kylin存储引擎实践 https://blog.bcmeng.com/post/kylin-on-druid.html--
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋

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