Thorsten Scherler wrote:
I reckon what Michi wanted to say is that we miss the productive traffic produced by Gregor. ;-)

;)

Our release process, that have been managed many times by Gregor in the
past, has really just stalled.
... but not the development. The quota between 1.4 commits and 1.2 is
stately raising in favor for 1.4.
http://lenya.apache.org/changes.html

as a (relative) outsider, i agree with michi that perception is reality. there haven't been any new releases since june 25, 2005.

good ways to track whether people are talking about lenya (and what they are saying) are

http://technorati.com/search/%22apache%20lenya%22
http://del.icio.us/url/276fa8cbc7105526297302591c369264

and here is a (crude) way to find sites running lenya:

http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:lenya+-lotte+-author+-artist+-music+-people+-php+-books+-names+-shop+-asp+-baby+-apache+-cgi+-musik+-marc+-gmane+-film+-SOURCES+-movie+-index+-dist+-gz+-audio+-events+-mirror+-zip+-ftp+-BINARIES&num=100&hl=en&sa=N

it's all well that development continues, but a project needs to get the word out too. interacting / reacting to what people are saying out there about lenya is a big part of it, and a part that may have been neglected.

I pointed out some time ago that we need to start releasing again on a
regular basis but there have been close to no reaction on this thread.

agreed. i would like to resign as RM (i can't find the time to do RM at this time) and would strongly suggest someone else to step up. cutting a release is pretty simple and takes about 2h once you figure out how to do it, and esp. for the stable branch makes sense on a strict 2 months schedule.

even new betas for 1.4 would make a lot of sense, if you want people to play with 1.4.

http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ProjectReleasePlan

any takers?

-gregor

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