Thorsten Scherler wrote:

El lun, 30-01-2006 a las 21:46 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
...
Please, we really need to do the releases.
Somebody want to do this (we all will help)?
...
what about that every two months somebody else will be doing this.
(which we can write into the plan --> Wiki)?

resp. that each committer will do it once

I would volunteer to be the first ... ;-) but only if everyone will help
to pull the wagon, whereas Gregor and Rolf could be postponed after everyone else
will have made a release, because they already did so.

If committers don't want to, then I think they should retire ...

WDYT?
Please, never forget we are working here in an open source project.
One has to *volunteer* for being RM not because it is your turn.

I think we cannot expect that somebody *has* to do anything in this
project!

I am not forcing anyone ;-)

You wrote: "If committers don't want to, then I think they should
retire ..."

it's a clear suggestion!

Like you said in the former thread: 'perception is often the "truth".'

I don't see how you can perceive this wrong. If I would have said

"If committers don't want to, then they have to retire" would be
a whole different story, but I didn't say that, neither I was thinking it.



That is why the sentence "if it is your itch, scratch it" is standing
for open source.


does it itch you?

Seriously, would I have started *this* thread
"[IMPORTANT] We need a new RM (was Re: White paper on OS CMS)"

if not?

why don't you fix it then yourself?!

-1 for your proposal

salu2


obviously nobody wants to commit him/herself to being the RM.

Why is this obvious?

nobody is saying "Hey, sure, i am happy to be RM :-)", or is there anyone.
As said I have sent an email a couple of months ago and IIRC you did twice.
So isn't it obvious!?

Hubertus offered e.g. help with testing the releases and we have given
our committers a very short period of time to think about it, since I
started this thread.
Maybe some people might actually like to step up as RM and just want to
give other committers a fair chance to apply for it as well.

c'mon!!!!! I definitely don't want to be RM! Is that clear enough for others
to step up?!

Do you know the "grimm story" the devil and three golden hairs?

you mean http://www.familymanagement.com/literacy/grimms/grimms22.html

please read the very last paragraph ...

So why not call up for sharing the load?

Sharing the load is perfectly alright, but RM should not be seen "...as
a punishment for his sins....". ;-)

what else is being RM ;-)

What is wrong with that?

Like said I am all for sharing but releasing should not be made to the
only measurement for activity.


did I say that? Definitely not!

Everyone who is trying to do her job in
the CoPDoC areas from lenya is an active committer, some more active
then others, but even the smallest thing is helping the lenya project.

agreed, but that was never the issue here.


Michi

salu2


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