On 2/6/06, Bob Harner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/6/06, Andreas Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> > > Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> > >> Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> > >>
> > >> [...]
> > >>
> > >>>> One thing, though:  It isn't clear to me whether Jörn and Solprovider
> > >>>> really agree on what a Document is.  Jörn seems to be using Document
> > >>>> as the aggregate/container term for both the editable text and the
> > >>>> assets of a page.  But Solprovider seems to be suggesting the words
> > >>>> Resource or Content for that purpose.
> > >>>
> > >>> now that you say it, you are right. i had read solprovider's remark
> > >>> the way i wanted it to read :(
> > >>
> > >> A little off topic, but I'd like to state my opinion once more:
> > >> The concept of "the editable text and the assets of a page" should be
> > >> dropped. Textual documents and (binary) assets should be equally handled
> > >> items in a flat storage.
> > >
> > > ++votes.
> > >
> > > how do you like my terminology proposal in the wiki?
> > > i'm suggesting to use "document" as the thing that is composed of
> > > assets, where assets are "text assets" (can be in different languages),
> > > and image or other media assets (with the same properties).
> >
> >
> > Actually I'm not quite pleased with that.
> > IMO "set of =>language versions and other =>assets" is a mixture of 
> > concepts.
> > Assets consist of language versions (translations).
> >
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> >
> > asset:: An atomic piece of information, handled as a single unit by the API.
> >          An asset consists of multiple translations (language versions).
> >
> > document:: A dynamically assembled piece of information, based on an asset.
> >             The document isgenerated by resolving references to other assets
> >             and external resources. [1]
> >
> > page:: The aggregation of 1..n documents + presentation.
> >
> >
> > [1] Using this definition, navigation widgets can be implemented as 
> > documents,
> > based on an asset which references the resource which generates the 
> > navigation
> > widget. This means, according to this definition, a page can contain 
> > navigation
> > widgets as well.
> >
> >
> > -- Andreas
> >
>
> I like Andreas' definitions, except I'm a little uneasy about saying
> that a page consists of one or more documents.  That's the converse of
> the real-world definition in which a "document" consists of one or
> more pages (which in HTML terms would mean next page & prev page
> links).
>
> Also, let's please consider the possibility that a document could be
> simply a PDF file (linked directly from the navigation).  I'm not sure
> how to work that in, but it would seem to be an important need.

Andreas, can you explain your thinking on why a document would be
based on just one asset rather than being a collection of asset references?

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