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The pricetag on commonspot is beyond most peoples means as well. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> Sent: 03 March 2005 10:30
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> 
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> Commonspot is good, but there is no way top get a demo 
> download is there?
> Not without annoying sales muppets contact you all the time.
> 
> FarCry is also a good option.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Reynolds
> Sent: 03 March 2005 10:25
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
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> To be honest it's a case of getting the requirements capture 
> right. I would also suggest downloading/browsing available CMS. 
> 
> If you take something like Commonspot/PHPNuke, you may find 
> that the subset of the feature set is enough for your needs. 
> You may 'steal'
> interfaces/processes from theses CMS.
> 
> As to doing your data model for you....
> 
> Get the requirements down and you should be able to derive 
> the data model at an object level, from this you should be 
> able to identify the set of cfcs you need, the methods, and 
> then you can get to the data model which should fall into place.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Watson
> Sent: 02 March 2005 16:58
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
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> 
> Thanks for that Adam, that's the kind of thing I'm after. Do 
> you know of
> 
> any good books that discuss business processes and architecture?
> 
> 
> Adam Reynolds wrote:
> 
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> >>    
> >>
> >You really need to deal with the 1% of the time.
> >
> >Most of the time having live and non-live is acceptable. 
> >
> >What you should have is the concept of edition/copy/version/whatever.
> >You have the live version, but have previous versions of the 
> page (as 
> >well as new versions of the page). The key is that there is only ONE 
> >live page. The rest is inconsequential. Versions can have 
> statuses like 
> >Archived, Awaiting Approval etc.
> >
> >You need to model business processes.
> >
> >And to be honest, page is a bad concept. I would go with article and 
> >have multiple articles displayed on one 
> page/container....that sort of 
> >thing. You can then have display handlers for each article dependent 
> >upon the level of detail you wish to display about an article.
> >
> >Of course live and non-live will do for 99% of the time.....
> >
> >
> >Have fun.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
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> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Robertson-Ravo,
> >Neil (RX)
> >Sent: 02 March 2005 16:16
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> >Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >
> >  
> >
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> >>    
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> >In the same table?!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Russ Michaels
> >(Snake)
> >Sent: 02 March 2005 16:11
> >To: 'Coldfusion Development'
> >Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >
> >  
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> >>    
> >>
> >Yes you can.
> >One copy of the record marked as LIVE
> >One copy of the record marked as NOT-LIVE
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
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> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Adrian Lynch
> >>Sent: 02 March 2005 15:05
> >>To: Coldfusion Development
> >>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >>
> >>    
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> >>>      
> >>>
> >>AND not OR, he's saying you can't have both at the same time.
> >>
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> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Russ Michaels
> >>(Snake)
> >>Sent: 02 March 2005 15:00
> >>To: 'Coldfusion Development'
> >>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
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> >>>      
> >>>
> >>So having content that can be marked as LIVE or NOT live does allow 
> >>for live and not-live content?
> >>
> >>Perhaps you better rethink what you just said neil.
> >>
> >>Russ
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >>>Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> >>>Sent: 02 March 2005 09:37
> >>>To: Matt Horn; Coldfusion Development
> >>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
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> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>That approach does not allow for LIVE and non-Live content
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>though?  We
> >>    
> >>
> >>>tend to go for the Holiding Table approach where you have
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>dupe copies
> >>    
> >>
> >>>of each record OR we have a Version History type object 
> ala Spectra 
> >>>(was my tool of choice for my sins).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Horn
> >>>Sent: 02 March 2005 09:39
> >>>To: Coldfusion Development
> >>>Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
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> >>>>
> >>>well I normally have a "LIVE" column in my content table 
> and toggle 
> >>>that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Damian Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: "Coldfusion Development" <[email protected]>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:37 AM
> >>>Subject: [CF-Dev] Publishing content
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>Just a general question about publishing content in a
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>CMS. I've seen
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>(and used) two main approaches:
> >>>>
> >>>>1. Have content saved into database and when content is
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>published, write
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>it to static htm or xml files
> >>>>2. Have "staged" and "live" tables in the db. When content
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>is published,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>copy from one t'other
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyone have any preferences or alternatives, resource
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>links, books?
> >>    
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