That's cozz u knew how to cod ein the first place steve


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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 August 2003 17:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Fusebox Goodies


Simon

> I'm not a fusebox fan - never have been.  This is primarilly because 
> I've found that it ties your hands as well as discouraging you from 
> learning
the
> language properly.  Most applications can be built better if you know 
> how
to
> build an app. from scratch.
>

With great respect....  Thats a load of bollox.

I'm no fan of FB3 and have yet to look at Mach12 or whatever FB4 is
being called. (I dislike the over use of files to determine OS
etc.etc.etc. and the overly complex switching that creates spaghetti if
your not a conscientious developer blah blah blah...)

However, in no way shape or form does it prevent you from learning
coldfusion properly.  That is an element of the programmer.  No method
for structuring applications is going to discourage a developer from
learning the language.  All FB (any version) does is provide a hub/spoke
structure within which you right your application and a few functions
that can assist in ease of development.  It can't help you learn to
write good code nor does it prevent you from writing good code.

In terms of tieing your hands; never had any issue with finding FB
restricting how I writing a well structured application.  Frankly,
developers who aren't using MVC (now that we have a real approximation
to an OO language) or a hub/spoke method (procedural) should all be
taken out and shot.  These are the developers who just litter files with
queries,displays, actions with no defined flow through the application
and create applications that cannot be maintained.

In no way does or has FB ever attempted to write an application for a
developer, so your statement that an application can generally be
written better from scratch has no relevance to the dicussion.

I'm not happy about all the "political" and "commercial" BS that FB has
become since FB3, but these kind of statements are pure ignorance of
what FuseBox is.  Sorry Simon.

Regards

Stephen



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