of course, it should be noted that these companies may have hired developers who don't know what they're doing with FB, too. One of the major problems with Spectra was that people didn't know how to properly use it. Mind you, Spectra had it's own issues as well, but it wasn't actually that bad a CMS... not if you really knew how to make it do what you want the right way.
~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2003 15:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Fusebox - what is the problem? I agree with Simon on his points .. my major gripe with it as a developer, who has looked for CF work over some months, is that some companies have used fusebox and found it to be a bit crap and then surmised that all of CF is rubbish and wont touch it again. This is ,of course, not fusebox's fault but there are a lot of people who think CF = fusebox and I just think that's bad for the community. (Of course there are a lot of terrible CF developers out there whos shonky work stuffs it up for everyone no matter what methodology they use :¬) (I've also always found Fusebox people a little fanatical, so I expect a charred, urine soaked copy of a Ben Forta book to turn up on my doorstep over the next few days :¬) Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2003 15:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Fusebox - what is the problem? I'm a little too busy to be very descript, but I wouldn't really call FB a methodology... it's a bunch of custom tags. That said, FB creates a framework for doing things that hides developers from the server... scopes are blurred, everything runs through a single file, error handling is screwy, lots of things about building FB apps. that hinder developers from learning how to really use CFML properly. If you know how to develop, FB is unnecessary. There are some good things about it - if all of a company's apps. are FB apps then there is standardization across all of these aps. (hopefully). Also, it attempts to seperate business logic from presentation layer which is a very good thing, though on CFMX, FB doesn't seperate logic from display anywhere near as well CFCs allow you to. There are a lot of things that could be said on the topic. All in all, I think FB is great for people who need to build an app. in a very short time and either don't know where to begin on their own or simply can't write the business logic on their own. Otherwise, it's more of a hinderance. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2003 14:27 To: cfdev Subject: [ cf-dev ] Fusebox - what is the problem? I'm what you would call a staunch supporter of fusebox, but I have noticed some animosity to the beast that is fb on this list. So what is it you don't like about it? I have found it to be one of the more successful web methodologies. Adam -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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