RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

[Snake Hollywood]

yes but we all know Spike that's the difference. It's a different kettle of fish when your dealing with an unknown.

 

Russ

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From: Barry L Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 June 2004 08:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

won't things like ICQ and video conferencing get around telecommuting woes? logging on and working while everyone else is as work (ie: their 9-5)? Flash RIA's would hel there, etc.

we've ditched a young mother who was coding for us because she was a PITA to get hold of (for all the reasons Russ said). A pity to shaft someone deserving but no way to run a business.

but surely it's not impossible and a cost/benefit analysis can show it'll work, yes?

A case in point: for those that know Spike (Stephen Milligan), if you could afford him for contract work via telecommuting - would you hire him?.... I would.

just AU$0.02
barry.b

----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Puritche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:47:52 +0300
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

> Snake,
>
> I believe that you know what term "credit history" mean. Applying it
> to IT - employer can assume that if I successfully worked for 5
> companies then I probably will work OK for 6th too.
>
> Telecommuters can be managed only if you are 10 finger keyboards
> typist. This is primary skill needed for managing telecommuters, i'm
> not kidding.
>
> As for time management - contact me off list, i will send you link to
> a program which solves this problem.
>
> In general, it isn't a problem to manage overseas stuff once you dug
> in, the problem is to want to try it.
>
>
> Sunday, June 6, 2004, 12:19:42 PM, you wrote:
> < BR>> Snake> It's not pure gain, it's a pain in the ass.
> Snake> Telecommuters cannot be managed,
> Snake> monitored, checked on.
> Snake> I would have no idea if your doing any work, no idea what hours your
> Snake> working, no idea if your charging me for 8 hours per day but only working 4
> Snake> etc.
> Snake> I would not employ a full-time telecommuter for my company unless I already
> Snake> knew them and knew their ability to work remotely and be reliable. And then
> Snake> I would expect them to be in the same country so they can come to meetings
> Snake> etc.
>
> Snake> Russ
>
>
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 05 June 2004 18:46
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re[4]: [ cf-dev ] The ch icken or the egg
> >>
> >>
> >> Snake,
> >>
> >> I understand, but it doesn't solve problems of the UK companies.
> >>
> >> From the state point of view, it is much cheaper to "buy" in
> >> a various ways, providing temporary working permits,
> >> permanent legal statuses, etc. to trained/educated people
> >> then to grow and train own.
> >>
> >> As for telecomuters - it is pure gain, because telecommuter
> >> is living abroad and do not utilize state "services" like
> >> police, health care, social secure, etc. in the same time
> >> working for that country instead of native country.
> >>
> >> I hope you understand me.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Alex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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