Sounds good to me.  Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the meantime, 
Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier than that.

Cheers,

Edward

From: Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better to put together a 
taskforce to get this done:


-          Edward said they have some fixes

-          Valentine during the TSC call also mentioned that probably they can 
contribute their process to build and deploy

-          Paul with the rest of Infrastructure group are also putting the 
CI/CD in place

-          I have mentioned in the past have a way to build OpenContrail (but 
not deploy)

Combining all the above we should be able to fix the issue sooner rather than 
later. I can pull the above people together and start working on this. Output 
will be documentation (worse case) or chef/pupper/ansible manifests at best…

And Yi: I think you are recently started catching with the community up. This 
issue has been identified long ago, we all know about it, people (especially 
Infrastructure committee and other outside) work on a fix. It doesn’t happen 
overnight and it is up to all of us to put “our house in order”. So let’s see 
how we can do our share moving forward ;-)

So, any volunteers to put some sort of OpenContrail installation together 
(single or multi node) to start with please let us know and I will pull 
everyone together next week.

Regards,

Joseph



From: Sukhdev Kapur [mailto:sukh...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 PM
To: Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com<mailto:lti...@lenovo.com>>; Yang, Yi Y 
<yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>; Gregory Elkinbard 
<gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>; CARVER, PAUL 
<pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>; Gasparakis, Joseph 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Edward, Yi, et. all,

I am the newest member of the OpenContrail team and have had my share of issues 
trying to install OpenContrail. Therefore, I do appreciate what you are saying. 
I am all for documenting the issues and solutions so that, as a community, we 
can all leverage from each other’s pain points and solutions.
Having said that, why don’t we come up with a place “OpenContrail User Central” 
(or something like that) where we can start to post these kinds of 
solutions/fixes so that other can leverage from each other’s work.

Joseph, shall we discuss this in our next TSC meeting?

-Sukhdev




From: Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com<mailto:lti...@lenovo.com>>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:43 PM
To: "Yang, Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>, Gregory 
Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, "CARVER, 
PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>, Sukhdev Kapur 
<sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda


We have tried contrail-installer (4 different developers) on Ubuntu 16.04 with 
DevStack Ocata (Mitaka is no longer available). It can bring all component 
‘Active’ after try-and-error fixing broken steps, but not fully functional.

We are more than happy to contribute our ‘fixes’ to where we are and work with 
the community together to complete the last missing pieces.

Thanks,

Edward

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Yang, Yi Y
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:33 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; Sukhdev Kapur; Gasparakis, Joseph; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Understood, but as an open source community, you Juniper guys are to learn how 
to leverage community resources, I believe many people can contribute to these 
documents or 
https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-installer<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Juniper_contrail-2Dinstaller&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Y9QaEJ2cs4La8kQDqQ-N2rBJnxrPyFqAIO8efLhSqZ0&m=UENkYoX6DDteZmRSmfgQUxmxxbuNE1Au8qeoMu_YRiw&s=zRPvHM2gVJjlmogAMa1v0oPnc_fuoGVVutAlBgTyh0g&e=>
 if someone of you can provide necessary and quick response about the issues 
developers found. You must make sure people can install and use it first if you 
hope to have more developers and users.

From: Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:23 AM
To: Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>; CARVER, PAUL 
<pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>; Sukhdev Kapur 
<sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>; Gasparakis, Joseph 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Folks,
I appreciate that we have a deficit in usability.

However Amazon demo scripts can be used today to build a multi-vm environment 
in Amazon. It is semi-latest Cannonical OpenStack and OpenContrail 4.0.1. The 
scripts set up the whole environment for you. Just fill out few things.

I know this is not stuff that can run on desktops and is not useful for a true 
development pipeline. I am simply trying to avoid having people show up to a 
developer meeting cold, without even basic open contrail knowledge.

Once the CI system is up we will have a set of running single VM scripts. But 
my choice right now is to stop the development and have people write the docs. 
Or finish the development, launch the community CI and then write the docs.

Thanks
Greg




From: "Yang, Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:16 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, 
"CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>, Sukhdev Kapur 
<sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Greg, but install has been a big obstacle for developers, can you help provide 
an existing guide document for an easier installation way for developer? I mean 
OpenContrail + Openstack in vagrant VMs (or hardware platforms if impossible), 
don’t tell me to use binary installation in Ubuntu 14.04 ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Gregory 
Elkinbard
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:06 AM
To: CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>; Sukhdev Kapur 
<sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>; Gasparakis, Joseph 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

I would recommend that folks who do come, at least
1) install and play with contrail demo.
2) read the architecture spec

Thanks
Greg


From: "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:21 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>, Gregory 
Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

The more questions the better. The ideal would be no slides and all questions, 
answers and discussions.

No formal pre-work is required, but I would encourage anyone who is 
contemplating any Contrail development to spend a little time thinking about 
what you think your development steps will be and make a list of anything that 
you’re unsure about. The goal of this session is to get developers up to speed, 
so the more specific examples we have of either obstacles or simply things that 
ought to be covered in a getting started guide but aren’t will be helpful.

I’m hoping to create the beginnings of a developer FAQ based on what questions 
people have.

--
Paul Carver
VoIP: 732-545-7377
Cell: 908-803-1656
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It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future.


From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Sukhdev Kapur
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 17:09
To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>; 
Gasparakis, Joseph 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Joesph, Greg:

There is not pre-work required. Just come, bring an attitude to learn things, 
and bring your questions.
We have few speakers identified to cover this 4-hour session.

Rudra and I will cover the Overall architecture
We have additional speakers to cover Controller, analytics, and testing areas.

I am working on getting some slides that we will use to cover the architecture.

HTH
-Sukhdev


From: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:59 PM
To: "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge 
<rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>, Sukhdev Kapur 
<sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>
Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Rudra, Sukhdev,
You own this session. Can you please respond.
Thanks
Greg


From: "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
<joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Greg,

For Dec 6th 1:00- 5:00 Developer Track: Is there any pre-work required?

Thanks

Joseph

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Gregory 
Elkinbard
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:32 AM
To: dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YA0X1GYcAMhcXAhjdSnq_WWmhQKV6pHwkK3PSu9V3e4/edit?usp=sharing<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1YA0X1GYcAMhcXAhjdSnq-5FWWmhQKV6pHwkK3PSu9V3e4_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=VQrMBvKeploIeBocya36pOwODBVDvmbjFqFgowqJuhs&m=vEKkTAAAOb3NmoHBAXY0AWuX0eVFStYoTOP-OrZc-8I&s=3wijA4l3khom5fOwRia9ZvVZy6jmKoDcDFeWzaW3mfE&e=>
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