Luke: The previous email I sent is the correct one. For some reason, a draft was sent initially (darn gnus misbehaved again!)
:) Loic [email protected] (Loic J. Duros) writes: > Luke T. Shumaker <[email protected]> writes: > > Hi: > > Thanks for these reports, we will review them thoroughly in the upcoming > days. I've added brief thoughts and comments about them as I read. > >> Type: freedom issue >> Subject: Includes non-freedom respecting search engines >> >> Even though DuckDuckGo is the default, it still includes Google and >> Yahoo search engines. > > AFAIK, we still want to provide alternatives to DuckDuckGo, and give > users the choice. DuckDuckGo HTML-only is the default, and non-free JS > is blocked from such sites as Google and Yahoo. Do you have other > alternatives you'd like to see there or replace the Google and Yahoo > choices? > >> Type: (possible) freedom issue >> Subject: Recommends DuckDuckGo, which uses non-free javascript. >> >> DuckDuckGo uses non-free javascript, so Parabola includes DuckDuckGo >> HTML. However, because IceCat includes LibreJS, this may be a >> non-issue, as without javascript, it will fall back to the HTML-only >> version. > > DuckDuckGo in the search box and in the about:home page go directly to > the html version of DuckDuckGo, the form is given the html-only url: > https://duckduckgo.com/html/ > There is no javascript in the html-only pages. > >> >> I feel that it is still nescessary to include DDG HTML instead >> because even though it falls back, it still seems to be recommending > > Where do you see DDG being included without the /html/ url? Maybe > there's a location where it isn't applied. > >> the non-free JS. Similar way to how Linux-libre doesn't just >> remove non-free globs, but also removes reverences to the files from >> the kernel, so that it doesn't seem that the kernel is recommending >> them. >> >> ---- >> >> Type: freedom issue >> Subject: If social API stuff is enabled, Facebook is there by default >> >> Even though social.active=false by default, if it is enabled, the >> default setup includes Facebook. >> >> This affects the values of social.manifest.facebook and >> social.activation.whitelist in browser/app/profile/firefox.js > > Even when enabling the Social API, I can't see Facebook enabled by > default. I talked with a few Firefox developers a while ago on this > issue. It appears you have to go to a page (from Facebook) and click > "install", after what you see the sidebar and you can like a URL, etc, > ... What do you mean by "Facebook there by default"? > > For the Social API code itself, it is released under a free license, and > so isn't a freedom issue per se. The services it may interact with, on > the other hand, may not be free. We probably need to warn users about > this. All in all, I think the Social API is less of a privacy concern > than the "like" buttons you may find on websites, because if you `like` > a URL with the API, only the URL value is being communicated; but I'll > have to check again. Of course, we should at least warn or discourage > people from using Facebook for the reasons given here: > https://www.fsf.org/facebook > > More to come about this... But let's keep in mind it is already disabled > by default. > >> >> ---- >> >> Type: rebranding issue >> Subject: browser/app/Makefile tries to install /bin/firefox > > Thanks for pointing this out! > >> Type: rebranding issue >> Subject: Identifies w/ Mozilla in the first-run "Know your rights..." bar >> >> The bar that pops up on first run tha has the "Know your rights..." >> button reads: >> >> > GNU IceCat is free and open source software from the non-profit >> > Mozilla Foundation. > > Thanks! This is a problem. We might want to remove the bar all together or > create a new one linking to the Free Software page. > >> >> Type: technical/rebranding issue >> Subject: "Reset IceCat" does not work >> >> This is because it falls victim to Mozilla bug 756390 >> The patch uploaded to the Mozilla bug tracker should fix this. >> >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756390 >> >> ---- >> >> Type: (possible) rebranding issue >> Subject: Uses the phrase "Firefox Sync" >> >> I'm not sure if this is an issue or not. One could look at "Firefox >> Sync" as a separate service (that is integrated) that is not being >> modified, or as part of the browser that is. > > Since the servers are provided by Mozilla, changing the name to "IceCat" > didn't seem to make much sense, and could have been misleading for users. > >> >> ---- >> >> Type: freedom/legal issue >> Subject: Recommends using Mozilla's sync servers. >> >> Mozilla's TOS only allows "official Mozilla-branded software" to use >> their servers for Firefox Sync without special written permission. >> >> I know that Trisquel runs their own sync servers for Abrowser, I'm >> sure they'd be happy to let you use them. I also think it would be >> cool if GNU ran their own servers. I've also been toying with the >> idea of packaging the sync server software for Parabola and running it >> on our servers. >> >> If you do end up getting permission to use Mozilla's servers, I >> believe that the TOS and Privacy Policy are acceptable, but you'd want >> to take a look yourself. >> >> ---- >> >> Type: bug >> Subject: langpacks >> >> There are no IceCat 17 langpacks that I can tell. > > I have sent an announcement on this mailing that I was looking for help > on this. I can generate the automated packages, but they have several > issues that need more focus than I have time to give them. Currently > focus is on privacy and freedom, and so anyone willing to take over > generating the langpacks would be appreciated! > >> >> As another issue with the langpack script, the resulting langpacks >> overrode the normal search engine settings to be back to using Google >> by default. (apparently, en-US user here) > > This is one among other issues with the bash script that does the > conversion. It needs much updating. > >> >> ---- >> >> Type: feature request >> Subject: Run AMO on GNU servers. >> > > I have asked the sysadmins at GNU about hosting an appl a while ago, and > the best solution they gave us is to host the list of addons in the FSF > Free Software Directory. I am looking for volunteers who can help doing > this. They would need an account on the FSF directory and a brief > walkthrough on how to create the addon list. > > Would you be willing to add the addons to the FSF Directory list, or > find more volunteers to do so? :-) > > Also, if you are interested in working on IceCat bugs yourself and > provide patches, this would be very beneficial for the project. > > Thanks for all your reports, and I'm looking forward to fixing what can > be fixed! > > Loic > > -- > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev
