At Sun, 06 Jan 2013 13:08:35 -0500, Loic J. Duros wrote: > > Luke T. Shumaker <[email protected]> writes: > > Even though DuckDuckGo is the default, it still includes Google and > > Yahoo search engines. > > AFAIK, we still want to provide alternatives to DuckDuckGo, and give > users the choice. DuckDuckGo HTML-only is the default, and non-free JS > is blocked from such sites as Google and Yahoo. Do you have other > alternatives you'd like to see there or replace the Google and Yahoo > choices?
In Parabola, the provided (general purpose) search engines are DDG HTML, DDG Lite, Seeks[1], and YaCy/bluebox[2]. [1] http://www.seeks-project.info/site/ [2] http://yacy.dyndns.org/ > > Subject: Recommends DuckDuckGo, which uses non-free javascript. > > DuckDuckGo in the search box and in the about:home page go directly to > the html version of DuckDuckGo, the form is given the html-only url: > https://duckduckgo.com/html/ > There is no javascript in the html-only pages. > > Where do you see DDG being included without the /html/ url? Maybe > there's a location where it isn't applied. I'm sorry, I believe I was mistaken. You see, Parabola uses "DuckDuckGo HTML" for the shortName, instead of "DuckDuckGo" to refer to DDG HTML (consistent with DDG's official opensearch.xml files). I had assumed that since IceCat was using just "DuckDuckGo" for the shortName, it was using the ajax version of DDG. > > Subject: If social API stuff is enabled, Facebook is there by default > > Even when enabling the Social API, I can't see Facebook enabled by > default. I talked with a few Firefox developers a while ago on this > issue. It appears you have to go to a page (from Facebook) and click > "install", after what you see the sidebar and you can like a URL, etc, > ... What do you mean by "Facebook there by default"? > > For the Social API code itself, it is released under a free license, and > so isn't a freedom issue per se. The services it may interact with, on > the other hand, may not be free. We probably need to warn users about > this. All in all, I think the Social API is less of a privacy concern > than the "like" buttons you may find on websites, because if you `like` > a URL with the API, only the URL value is being communicated; but I'll > have to check again. Of course, we should at least warn or discourage > people from using Facebook for the reasons given here: > https://www.fsf.org/facebook > > More to come about this... But let's keep in mind it is already disabled > by default. I have not evaluated that issue myself, I was looking at libre.patch, which is (should be) used to correct freedom-related issues. The portion that I am reporting is this: diff -Nur a/browser/app/profile/firefox.js b/browser/app/profile/firefox.js --- a/browser/app/profile/firefox.js 2012-12-01 16:06:30.000000000 -0200 +++ b/browser/app/profile/firefox.js 2012-12-04 20:42:20.753633713 -0200 @@ -1149,13 +1149,3 @@ // might keep around more than this, but we'll try to get down to this value). // (This is intentionally on the high side; see bug 746055.) pref("image.mem.max_decoded_image_kb", 256000); - -// Example social provider -pref("social.manifest.facebook", "{\"origin\":\"https://www.facebook.com\",\"name\":\"Facebook Messenger\",\"workerURL\":\"https://www.facebook.com/desktop/fbdesktop2/socialfox/fbworker.js.php\",\"iconURL\":\"data:image/x-icon;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8%2F9hAAAAX0lEQVQ4jWP4%2F%2F8%2FAyUYTFhHzjgDxP9JxGeQDSBVMxgTbUBCxer%2Fr999%2BQ8DJBuArJksA9A10s8AXIBoA0B%2BR%2FY%2FjD%2BEwoBoA1yT5v3PbdmCE8MAshhID%2FUMoDgzUYIBj0Cgi7ar4coAAAAASUVORK5CYII%3D\",\"sidebarURL\":\"https://www.facebook.com/desktop/fbdesktop2/?socialfox=true\"}";); -// Comma-separated list of nsIURI::prePaths that are allowed to activate -// built-in social functionality. -pref("social.activation.whitelist", "https://www.facebook.com";); -pref("social.sidebar.open", true); -pref("social.sidebar.unload_timeout_ms", 10000); -pref("social.active", false); -pref("social.toast-notifications.enabled", true); > > The bar that pops up on first run tha has the "Know your rights..." > > button reads: > > > > > GNU IceCat is free and open source software from the non-profit > > > Mozilla Foundation. > > Thanks! This is a problem. We might want to remove the bar all together or > create a new one linking to the Free Software page. I think that taking the user to "about:rights" is OK. However, it does look like that the file needs to be filled out; it has numerous "X goes here" lines in it :P > > ---- > > > > Type: technical/rebranding issue > > Subject: "Reset IceCat" does not work > > > > This is because it falls victim to Mozilla bug 756390 > > The patch uploaded to the Mozilla bug tracker should fix this. > > > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756390 > > > > ---- > > Subject: Uses the phrase "Firefox Sync" > > Since the servers are provided by Mozilla, changing the name to "IceCat" > didn't seem to make much sense, and could have been misleading for users. Fair enough. > > ---- > > > > Type: freedom/legal issue > > Subject: Recommends using Mozilla's sync servers. > > > > Mozilla's TOS only allows "official Mozilla-branded software" to use > > their servers for Firefox Sync without special written permission. > > > > I know that Trisquel runs their own sync servers for Abrowser, I'm > > sure they'd be happy to let you use them. I also think it would be > > cool if GNU ran their own servers. I've also been toying with the > > idea of packaging the sync server software for Parabola and running it > > on our servers. > > > > If you do end up getting permission to use Mozilla's servers, I > > believe that the TOS and Privacy Policy are acceptable, but you'd want > > to take a look yourself. > > > > ---- > > > > Type: bug > > Subject: langpacks > > > > There are no IceCat 17 langpacks that I can tell. > > I have sent an announcement on this mailing that I was looking for help > on this. I can generate the automated packages, but they have several > issues that need more focus than I have time to give them. Currently > focus is on privacy and freedom, and so anyone willing to take over > generating the langpacks would be appreciated! > > > As another issue with the langpack script, the resulting langpacks > > overrode the normal search engine settings to be back to using Google > > by default. (apparently, en-US user here) > > This is one among other issues with the bash script that does the > conversion. It needs much updating. I'll look into seeing what I can do about creating tools to deal with the langpacks. > > Type: feature request > > Subject: Run AMO on GNU servers. > > I have asked the sysadmins at GNU about hosting an appl a while ago, and > the best solution they gave us is to host the list of addons in the FSF > Free Software Directory. I am looking for volunteers who can help doing > this. They would need an account on the FSF directory and a brief > walkthrough on how to create the addon list. > > Would you be willing to add the addons to the FSF Directory list, or > find more volunteers to do so? :-) Absolutely! > Also, if you are interested in working on IceCat bugs yourself and > provide patches, this would be very beneficial for the project. > > Thanks for all your reports, and I'm looking forward to fixing what can > be fixed! > > Loic Happy hacking, ~ Luke Shumaker _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev
