> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karol
> Lewandowski
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:28 AM
> To: Dominig ar Foll (Intel OTC); [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Dev] Forcing non agreed architecture changes is not acceptable.
> 
> On 2014-12-10 10:42, Dominig ar Foll (Intel OTC) wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I see today in Gerrit a patch pushed in an unacceptable way and I would
> > like to see that type of behaviour changed.
> > I speak about the review
> >    https://review.tizen.org/gerrit/#/c/31701/
> >
> > The push is justified on the comment :
> >
> > "Patch Set 3:
> > As of now, I feel adding these credentials here is the right way to do
> > because:
> >     We want kdbus to be part of official images, so it is not going to
> > be optional, although we may disable kdbus at boot time by default.
> >     Until we enable sysusers feature of systemd we'd like to avoid
> > adding and removing users with useradd/userdel."
> >
> > The "We want Kdbus ..." is not an agreed general feature but can only
> > be, as today, a valid profile specific request.
> > So the patch as it is shall be rejected :-(
> 
> Please take a look at the patch - it's about adding system users
> to the system, and while Łukasz quoted kdbus - issue is fairly
> generic.
> 
> > In order to get it in, the same person pushed it, verified it, and
> > accept it in less than 2 hours of working day time in Europe where are
> > located the Common reviewers.
> > Sorry but that is not acceptable.
> >
> > 1) Same person submitting, verifying and accepting a patch (even simple)
> > is not in line with Tizen review model,
> > 2) A decent time should be left for reviewer to voice their concerns.
> > Typical 24h to cover multiple time zones.
> > 3) Architecture change shall be agreed by architecture team to get in
> > Common.
> >
> > So please do not force changes any more.
> > In that specific case, if you need Kdbus in a profile before than it is
> > agree to be generalised in Common, please make an agreement with
> Common
> > to enable it with a clean model.
> 
> As for kdbus - it's been agreed 3.0 feature before Tizen:Common, and
> Generic were established.  Heck, it's even on official wiki page so
> please tell me why we do have to agree things that were already accepted?

NO! It is *not* an agreed on 3.0 feature! I have been adamant on this
issue. Until *all* the security model issues are addressed kbdus cannot
be considered. 

 
>   https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Tizen_3.0
> 
> 
> > In that specific case the use of a "%bcond_with kdbus" seems a viable
> > model.
> 
> Is it?  Sorry, but in this case is introducing complexity for not good
> reason.
> 
> 
> > Please sync with Common RE (Stéphane) to see if that model would work
> > for all of us.
> >
> > Please accept my apologies for having to be a bit rude.
> 
> I would appreciate if you wouldn't try to use politics to address
> technical problems.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Karol Lewandowski, Samsung R&D Institute Poland
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