Oh - I just reread this. S far as I know Java 9 has a scheduled release date. 
It is July 27.

BTW - here is the complete set of features - 
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/9/whatsnew/toc.htm#JSNEW-GUID-BA9D8AF6-E706-4327-8909-F6747B8F35C5
 
<https://docs.oracle.com/javase/9/whatsnew/toc.htm#JSNEW-GUID-BA9D8AF6-E706-4327-8909-F6747B8F35C5>.

Ralph


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Let me play devil's advocate here for a sec...
> 
> Java 9 modules and this auto naming business sounds painful. Is there any
> chance that this feature will be ignored like java.util.logging is or
> should be?
> 
> Can we stop tying ourselves into unreleased pretzels over a moving target
> since we do not know when Java 9 will be out.
> 
> Can't we refocus this energy on getting the best out of Java 8?
> 
> Ducking from incoming tomatoes,
> Gary
> 
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm a fan of splitting packages up better due to OSGi support in the first
>> place. Hierarchical packaging is definitely something new (OSGi doesn't
>> care about that; each package is considered separately), and it could help
>> in making some classes more organized.
>> 
>> On 21 April 2017 at 14:55, Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-04-21, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have not started work on this yet, but from looking at
>>>> http://blog.joda.org/2017/04/java-9-modules-jpms-basics.html
>>>> <http://blog.joda.org/2017/04/java-9-modules-jpms-basics.html> it
>>>> seems we are going to have problems with a) plugins that are in
>>>> different jars (modules) that use the same namespace and b) log4j-core
>>>> as it currently exists.
>>> 
>>>> Item b is a problem because the module-info for log4j-core should have
>>>> a requires ONLY for log4j-api. For example, I’m not sure how we can
>>>> have an optional dependency on Jackson.
>>> 
>>> requires static module-name-of-jackson;
>>> 
>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~mr/jigsaw/spec/lang-vm.html section 1.1.1
>>> 
>>>    The requires keyword may be followed by the modifier static. This
>>>    specifies that the dependence, while mandatory at compile time, is
>>>    optional at run time.
>>> 
>>> Of course "requires static" captures this way more clearly than "require
>>> optional" which was proposed intially
>>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/doc/topics/optional.html
>>> 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> Without knowing the structure of log4j too well I agree the strict
>>> package hierarchies mandated by JPMS will be a problem. Probably for
>>> many other projects with more than one artifact as well.
>>> 
>>> Stefan
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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