It is clear if you read https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-245 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-245> that it is indeed the software that is being referred to.
Ralph > On May 23, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: > > That would be like trying to put a license on the English language. See > http://www.json.org/license.html <http://www.json.org/license.html>. It > specifically mentions software. I suspect they are referring to the JSON > library that uses the package org.json, as found at > https://github.com/stleary/JSON-java <https://github.com/stleary/JSON-java>. > We don’t use that anywhere. > > Ralph > >> On May 23, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> From what I understand, it's the JSON format itself that has the "don't use >> this for evil" clause which makes it technically not an open source license. >> >> On 24 May 2017 at 00:00, Gary Gregory <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> AFAIK (IANAL), Jackson is ASL 2.0: >>> https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson-core/blob/master/src/ >>> <https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson-core/blob/master/src/> >>> main/resources/META-INF/LICENSE >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> So how much does this affect us? Is Jackson affected? Is JSON even >>>> supportable in an open source fashion? >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Chris Mattmann <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 23 May 2017 at 12:11 >>>> Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear PMCs@, >>>> >>>> Hi! As the new Legal VP, I am reminding everyone that the >>>> grandfather exception for the JSON License and Apache projects >>>> ended last month. As sent by Jim (our prior Legal VP) the relevant >>>> text is below and I want to highlight the following statement: >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*, AND there has >>>> been NO pushback from your community/eco-system, you have a temporary >>>> exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru April 30, 2017. At that >>> point >>>> in time, >>>> ANY and ALL usage of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Thank you for your consideration and attention to this >>>> matter. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chris Mattmann, VP, Legal ASF >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:04 AM >>>> To: legal discuss <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> From: Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: JSON License and Apache Projects >>>> Date: November 23, 2016 at 9:10:39 AM EST >>>> To: ASF Board <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>> Message-Id: <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> (forwarded from legal-discuss@) >>>> >>>> As some of you may know, recently the JSON License has been >>>> moved to Category X (https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#category-x). >>>> >>>> I understand that this has impacted some projects, especially >>>> those in the midst of doing a release. I also understand that >>>> up until now, really, there has been no real "outcry" over our >>>> usage of it, especially from end-users and other consumers of >>>> our projects which use it. >>>> >>>> As compelling as that is, the fact is that the JSON license >>>> itself is not OSI approved and is therefore not, by definition, >>>> an "Open Source license" and, as such, cannot be considered as >>>> one which is acceptable as related to categories. >>>> >>>> Therefore, w/ my VP Legal hat on, I am making the following >>>> statements: >>>> >>>> o No new project, sub-project or codebase, which has not >>>> used JSON licensed jars (or similar), are allowed to use >>>> them. In other words, if you haven't been using them, you >>>> aren't allowed to start. It is Cat-X. >>>> >>>> o If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*, >>>> AND there has been NO pushback from your community/eco-system, >>>> you have a temporary exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru >>>> April 30, 2017. At that point in time, ANY and ALL usage >>>> of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. You must >>>> either find a suitably licensed replacement, or do without. >>>> There will be NO exceptions. >>>> >>>> o Any situation not covered by the above is an implicit >>>> DISALLOWAL of usage. >>>> >>>> Also please note that in the 2nd situation (where a temporary >>>> exclusion has been granted), you MUST ensure that NOTICE explicitly >>>> notifies the end-user that a JSON licensed artifact exists. 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