Oh good. Jackson is better anyways! On 24 May 2017 at 00:59, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is clear if you read https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-245 < > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-245> that it is indeed the > software that is being referred to. > > Ralph > > > On May 23, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > That would be like trying to put a license on the English language. See > http://www.json.org/license.html <http://www.json.org/license.html>. It > specifically mentions software. I suspect they are referring to the JSON > library that uses the package org.json, as found at > https://github.com/stleary/JSON-java <https://github.com/stleary/JSON-java>. > We don’t use that anywhere. > > > > Ralph > > > >> On May 23, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> From what I understand, it's the JSON format itself that has the "don't > use > >> this for evil" clause which makes it technically not an open source > license. > >> > >> On 24 May 2017 at 00:00, Gary Gregory <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >>> AFAIK (IANAL), Jackson is ASL 2.0: > >>> https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson-core/blob/master/src/ < > https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson-core/blob/master/src/> > >>> main/resources/META-INF/LICENSE > >>> > >>> Gary > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> So how much does this affect us? Is Jackson affected? Is JSON even > >>>> supportable in an open source fashion? > >>>> > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>> From: Chris Mattmann <[email protected]> > >>>> Date: 23 May 2017 at 12:11 > >>>> Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dear PMCs@, > >>>> > >>>> Hi! As the new Legal VP, I am reminding everyone that the > >>>> grandfather exception for the JSON License and Apache projects > >>>> ended last month. As sent by Jim (our prior Legal VP) the relevant > >>>> text is below and I want to highlight the following statement: > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*, AND there > has > >>>> been NO pushback from your community/eco-system, you have a temporary > >>>> exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru April 30, 2017. At that > >>> point > >>>> in time, > >>>> ANY and ALL usage of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for your consideration and attention to this > >>>> matter. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Chris Mattmann, VP, Legal ASF > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> > >>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>>> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:04 AM > >>>> To: legal discuss <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Begin forwarded message: > >>>> > >>>> From: Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: JSON License and Apache Projects > >>>> Date: November 23, 2016 at 9:10:39 AM EST > >>>> To: ASF Board <[email protected]> > >>>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>>> Message-Id: <[email protected]> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> (forwarded from legal-discuss@) > >>>> > >>>> As some of you may know, recently the JSON License has been > >>>> moved to Category X (https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#category-x > ). > >>>> > >>>> I understand that this has impacted some projects, especially > >>>> those in the midst of doing a release. I also understand that > >>>> up until now, really, there has been no real "outcry" over our > >>>> usage of it, especially from end-users and other consumers of > >>>> our projects which use it. > >>>> > >>>> As compelling as that is, the fact is that the JSON license > >>>> itself is not OSI approved and is therefore not, by definition, > >>>> an "Open Source license" and, as such, cannot be considered as > >>>> one which is acceptable as related to categories. > >>>> > >>>> Therefore, w/ my VP Legal hat on, I am making the following > >>>> statements: > >>>> > >>>> o No new project, sub-project or codebase, which has not > >>>> used JSON licensed jars (or similar), are allowed to use > >>>> them. In other words, if you haven't been using them, you > >>>> aren't allowed to start. It is Cat-X. > >>>> > >>>> o If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*, > >>>> AND there has been NO pushback from your community/eco-system, > >>>> you have a temporary exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru > >>>> April 30, 2017. At that point in time, ANY and ALL usage > >>>> of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. You must > >>>> either find a suitably licensed replacement, or do without. > >>>> There will be NO exceptions. > >>>> > >>>> o Any situation not covered by the above is an implicit > >>>> DISALLOWAL of usage. > >>>> > >>>> Also please note that in the 2nd situation (where a temporary > >>>> exclusion has been granted), you MUST ensure that NOTICE explicitly > >>>> notifies the end-user that a JSON licensed artifact exists. They > >>>> may not be aware of it up to now, and that MUST be addressed. > >>>> > >>>> If there are any questions, please ask on the [email protected] > >>>> list. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jim Jagielski > >>>> VP Legal Affairs > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] > >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1617290459/ref=as_li_ > >>> tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1617290459& > >>> linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=cadb800f39946ec62ea2b1af9fe6a2 > b8> > >>> > >>> <http:////ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a= > >>> 1617290459> > >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition > >>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182021/ref=as_li_ > >>> tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182021& > >>> linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=31ecd1f6b6d1eaf8886ac902a24de4 > 18%22 > >>>> > >>> > >>> <http:////ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a= > >>> 1935182021> > >>> Spring Batch in Action > >>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182951/ref=as_li_ > >>> tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182951& > >>> linkCode=%7B%7BlinkCode%7D%7D&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=%7B% > >>> 7Blink_id%7D%7D%22%3ESpring+Batch+in+Action> > >>> <http:////ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a= > >>> 1935182951> > >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Matt Sicker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > -- Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
