Thank you, Matt.

I'll get back to you after I've written some unit tests.

Tim

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:37 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Go to https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/compare and click the
> "compare across forks" link at the top to make a PR from your forked
> repo.
>
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 12:15, Tim Perry <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying.
> >
> > I'd be happy to write some tests and submit a PR. How should I submit a
> > pull request? I don't think I can do it from the github repo I linked to.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm just saying that I don't think any of the developers here would
> > > object to functional changes you'd like to introduce here, especially
> > > if you think this change makes sense for users other than yourself.
> > >
> > > If you submit your changes as a PR (and preferably add automated tests
> > > if possible), we'd be happy to merge!
> > >
> > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 11:51, Tim Perry <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Matt, et al.,
> > > >
> > > > I agree the deployment patterns you mention are more common and I
> > > wouldn't
> > > > start a new project embedding log4j in each WAR. However, I'm trying
> to
> > > > upgrade some old spring apps and my hands are tied on the deployment
> > > > pattern.
> > > >
> > > > As mentioned in my comment on LOG4J2- 2624, the changes I proposed
> don't
> > > > fundamentally change the lifecycle hooks for web modules and each
> class
> > > > loader will still have its own independent log4j config. The changes
> just
> > > > provide the ability to stop log4j a little later. To me, this is a
> low
> > > risk
> > > > change since the default behaviour is unchanged. If my approach of
> > > passing
> > > > the Log4jWebLifeCycle around in the ServletContext is unacceptable,
> I'm
> > > > happy to revisit the code and come up with another solution. Here
> are the
> > > > proposed changes:
> > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/perry2of5/logging-log4j2/commit/56455af53920d69ff7a49a63c5bbf38773069e8d
> > > >
> > > > I'd really like to fix these bugs. If you are telling me there are
> more
> > > > important things for the log4j team to work on and that there is no
> > > > interest from the log4j committers to make these changes, I can
> accept
> > > > that. However, I think these changes would be welcomed by some log4j
> > > users
> > > > and I hope one of the log4j committers will work with me on solving
> these
> > > > issues.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 6:29 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure how much any of the devs here use the log4j-web module
> > > > > anymore (seems more common to use fat jars or one app per servlet
> > > > > container instance at least), so it's hard to say about any
> > > > > idiosyncrasies. The main purpose of the lifecycle hooks for web
> > > > > modules is to allow each class loader to have its own independent
> > > > > log4j config, though I'm not sure how common that deployment
> pattern
> > > > > is anymore. There are alternative strategies such as hooking into
> the
> > > > > server code itself so that logging can shutdown with the server
> rather
> > > > > than the individual applications, but that's a different use case.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for design ideas, I think I had initially wanted to refactor the
> > > > > web context API to mimic how Spring Framework registers itself in
> the
> > > > > ServletContext, though I never got around to doing that, and now I
> > > > > typically use JVM-global logging configurations instead, so I never
> > > > > revisited that.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:53, Tim Perry <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd like to help fix LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606. How can I help?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To me, the challenge is to ensure log4j is initialized the very
> first
> > > > > time
> > > > > > the ServletContext is provided to any object during application
> > > loading
> > > > > and
> > > > > > startup and to stop log4j during the very last event or execution
> > > hook a
> > > > > > servlet 3.0 container exposes. Right now using the servlet 3.0
> > > > > > auto-configuration stops log4j too soon in some cases and using
> the
> > > > > servlet
> > > > > > 2.5 configuration starts log4j too late in some cases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW, I have posted a proposed fix in
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1606. I'm not sure
> if
> > > it is
> > > > > > the correct way to go. For one thing, it puts the
> Log4jWebLifeCycle
> > > > > > initializer into the ServletContext so that another object can
> grab
> > > it
> > > > > and
> > > > > > use it during log4j shutdown. Somewhere in the log4j dev
> archives I
> > > saw a
> > > > > > note about moving data out of the ServletContext so that it
> can't be
> > > > > > overwritten. I'm not sure if my solution would need to be
> modified or
> > > > > > abandoned in light of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The code changes I posted are based on a custom log4j-web
> artifact I
> > > > > > created for a client. It works for them on their Tomcat 8.x
> servers.
> > > > > > However, I'm not sure if I'm relying on any idiosyncratic
> behaviour
> > > of
> > > > > > Tomcat or if there are earlier or later servlet container events
> /
> > > hooks
> > > > > > that can be used to trigger configuration to happen earlier on
> > > startup or
> > > > > > stop log4j later when an application is stopped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I can be of any help fixing these issues, I'd like to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've gotten a lot of good use out of log4j over the years. Thank
> you
> > > for
> > > > > > maintaining it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > >
>

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