Great, thanks for the PR! I'll make sure to review this over the weekend.

On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 13:47, Tim Perry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I submitted pull request 463 for this work.
> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/463
>
> Please let me know if there are any issues you would like me to address.
>
> Thank you,
> Tim
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:27 PM Tim Perry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Okay, I've fully updated the code to use JUnit 5.
> >
> > I'm thinking of naming the ServletContextListener that should be
> > registered
> > as a listener in web.xml "Log4jShutdownOnContextDestroyedListener". In
> > my initial code it was named "Log4jServletDestroyedListenerTest" which
> > isn't very useful. The general pattern in this log4j-web artifact is to
> > name
> > things after the servlet interface they implement. However, now we have
> > two
> > classes implementing ServletContextListener so this class needs a name
> > that communicates its meaning better. Does the name
> > "Log4jShutdownOnContextDestroyedListener" make sense? It is the class
> > to register to do the log4j shutdown when the listener's
> > contextDestroyed method is called.
> >
> > I'm open to other suggestions. If no one has a strong preference I'll check
> > in the code with "Log4jShutdownOnContextDestroyedListener" as the name
> > and create the pull request tomorrow morning PST.
> >
> > I'm working on a branch based off release-2.x here:
> >
> > https://github.com/perry2of5/logging-log4j2/tree/release-2.x-configurableShutdown
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:07 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> The release-2.x branch is the current stable branch, while master is
> >> the 3.x branch right now. I'd suggest release-2.x since we're still
> >> likely to make at least one (if not more) more 2.x release before 3.0,
> >> though if you make a PR to both branches, that helps :)
> >>
> >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 13:47, Tim Perry <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yes, junit pulls in an old version of hamcrest. There are some nice
> >> > goodies in the newer hamcrest, but I just stuck with the existing
> >> > dependencies. I did upgrade everything to JUnit 5.
> >> >
> >> > What is the best branch to base my pull request on? I'm going to
> >> > re-apply the changes to get a clean history: one commit for the
> >> > testing upgrades and a second commit for substantive changes.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:15 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I believe that's already included. There's also AssertJ which might be
> >> > > a dependency. No strong preferences from me, though; just try to use
> >> > > the JUnit 5 API preferably as not everything has been migrated yet! :)
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 15:06, Tim Perry <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is it okay to import hamcrest to use in the tests?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > <dependency>
> >> > > >     <groupId>org.hamcrest</groupId>
> >> > > >     <artifactId>hamcrest</artifactId>
> >> > > >     <version>2.2</version>
> >> > > >     <scope>test</scope>
> >> > > > </dependency>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:44 AM Tim Perry <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you, Matt.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'll get back to you after I've written some unit tests.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tim
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:37 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Go to https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/compare and
> >> click the
> >> > > > >> "compare across forks" link at the top to make a PR from your
> >> forked
> >> > > > >> repo.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 12:15, Tim Perry <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Matt,
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Thanks for clarifying.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > I'd be happy to write some tests and submit a PR. How should I
> >> > > submit a
> >> > > > >> > pull request? I don't think I can do it from the github repo I
> >> > > linked
> >> > > > >> to.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Thanks,
> >> > > > >> > Tim
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > I'm just saying that I don't think any of the developers here
> >> > > would
> >> > > > >> > > object to functional changes you'd like to introduce here,
> >> > > especially
> >> > > > >> > > if you think this change makes sense for users other than
> >> > > yourself.
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > If you submit your changes as a PR (and preferably add
> >> automated
> >> > > tests
> >> > > > >> > > if possible), we'd be happy to merge!
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 11:51, Tim Perry <[email protected]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Matt, et al.,
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > I agree the deployment patterns you mention are more
> >> common and
> >> > > I
> >> > > > >> > > wouldn't
> >> > > > >> > > > start a new project embedding log4j in each WAR. However,
> >> I'm
> >> > > > >> trying to
> >> > > > >> > > > upgrade some old spring apps and my hands are tied on the
> >> > > deployment
> >> > > > >> > > > pattern.
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > As mentioned in my comment on LOG4J2- 2624, the changes I
> >> > > proposed
> >> > > > >> don't
> >> > > > >> > > > fundamentally change the lifecycle hooks for web modules
> >> and
> >> > > each
> >> > > > >> class
> >> > > > >> > > > loader will still have its own independent log4j config.
> >> The
> >> > > > >> changes just
> >> > > > >> > > > provide the ability to stop log4j a little later. To me,
> >> this
> >> > > is a
> >> > > > >> low
> >> > > > >> > > risk
> >> > > > >> > > > change since the default behaviour is unchanged. If my
> >> approach
> >> > > of
> >> > > > >> > > passing
> >> > > > >> > > > the Log4jWebLifeCycle around in the ServletContext is
> >> > > unacceptable,
> >> > > > >> I'm
> >> > > > >> > > > happy to revisit the code and come up with another
> >> solution.
> >> > > Here
> >> > > > >> are the
> >> > > > >> > > > proposed changes:
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > >
> >> https://github.com/perry2of5/logging-log4j2/commit/56455af53920d69ff7a49a63c5bbf38773069e8d
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > I'd really like to fix these bugs. If you are telling me
> >> there
> >> > > are
> >> > > > >> more
> >> > > > >> > > > important things for the log4j team to work on and that
> >> there
> >> > > is no
> >> > > > >> > > > interest from the log4j committers to make these changes,
> >> I can
> >> > > > >> accept
> >> > > > >> > > > that. However, I think these changes would be welcomed by
> >> some
> >> > > log4j
> >> > > > >> > > users
> >> > > > >> > > > and I hope one of the log4j committers will work with me on
> >> > > solving
> >> > > > >> these
> >> > > > >> > > > issues.
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > >> > > > Tim
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 6:29 PM Matt Sicker <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > I'm not sure how much any of the devs here use the
> >> log4j-web
> >> > > > >> module
> >> > > > >> > > > > anymore (seems more common to use fat jars or one app per
> >> > > servlet
> >> > > > >> > > > > container instance at least), so it's hard to say about
> >> any
> >> > > > >> > > > > idiosyncrasies. The main purpose of the lifecycle hooks
> >> for
> >> > > web
> >> > > > >> > > > > modules is to allow each class loader to have its own
> >> > > independent
> >> > > > >> > > > > log4j config, though I'm not sure how common that
> >> deployment
> >> > > > >> pattern
> >> > > > >> > > > > is anymore. There are alternative strategies such as
> >> hooking
> >> > > into
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > server code itself so that logging can shutdown with the
> >> > > server
> >> > > > >> rather
> >> > > > >> > > > > than the individual applications, but that's a different
> >> use
> >> > > case.
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > As for design ideas, I think I had initially wanted to
> >> > > refactor
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > web context API to mimic how Spring Framework registers
> >> > > itself in
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > ServletContext, though I never got around to doing that,
> >> and
> >> > > now I
> >> > > > >> > > > > typically use JVM-global logging configurations instead,
> >> so I
> >> > > > >> never
> >> > > > >> > > > > revisited that.
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:53, Tim Perry <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > Hello,
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > I'd like to help fix LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606. How
> >> can I
> >> > > > >> help?
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > To me, the challenge is to ensure log4j is initialized
> >> the
> >> > > very
> >> > > > >> first
> >> > > > >> > > > > time
> >> > > > >> > > > > > the ServletContext is provided to any object during
> >> > > application
> >> > > > >> > > loading
> >> > > > >> > > > > and
> >> > > > >> > > > > > startup and to stop log4j during the very last event or
> >> > > > >> execution
> >> > > > >> > > hook a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > servlet 3.0 container exposes. Right now using the
> >> servlet
> >> > > 3.0
> >> > > > >> > > > > > auto-configuration stops log4j too soon in some cases
> >> and
> >> > > using
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > servlet
> >> > > > >> > > > > > 2.5 configuration starts log4j too late in some cases.
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > FWIW, I have posted a proposed fix in
> >> > > > >> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1606.
> >> I'm not
> >> > > > >> sure if
> >> > > > >> > > it is
> >> > > > >> > > > > > the correct way to go. For one thing, it puts the
> >> > > > >> Log4jWebLifeCycle
> >> > > > >> > > > > > initializer into the ServletContext so that another
> >> object
> >> > > can
> >> > > > >> grab
> >> > > > >> > > it
> >> > > > >> > > > > and
> >> > > > >> > > > > > use it during log4j shutdown. Somewhere in the log4j
> >> dev
> >> > > > >> archives I
> >> > > > >> > > saw a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > note about moving data out of the ServletContext so
> >> that it
> >> > > > >> can't be
> >> > > > >> > > > > > overwritten. I'm not sure if my solution would need to
> >> be
> >> > > > >> modified or
> >> > > > >> > > > > > abandoned in light of this.
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > The code changes I posted are based on a custom
> >> log4j-web
> >> > > > >> artifact I
> >> > > > >> > > > > > created for a client. It works for them on their
> >> Tomcat 8.x
> >> > > > >> servers.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > However, I'm not sure if I'm relying on any
> >> idiosyncratic
> >> > > > >> behaviour
> >> > > > >> > > of
> >> > > > >> > > > > > Tomcat or if there are earlier or later servlet
> >> container
> >> > > > >> events /
> >> > > > >> > > hooks
> >> > > > >> > > > > > that can be used to trigger configuration to happen
> >> earlier
> >> > > on
> >> > > > >> > > startup or
> >> > > > >> > > > > > stop log4j later when an application is stopped.
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > If I can be of any help fixing these issues, I'd like
> >> to
> >> > > help.
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > I've gotten a lot of good use out of log4j over the
> >> years.
> >> > > > >> Thank you
> >> > > > >> > > for
> >> > > > >> > > > > > maintaining it.
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > Tim
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >

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