Cool,

I am working on giving my best release time guess as possible on the FOSDEM 
conference!

Uwe

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Uwe Schindler
Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
http://www.thetaphi.de
eMail: u...@thetaphi.de

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:33 PM
> To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Lucene/Solr 8.0
> 
> +1 to release 7.7 and 8.0 in a row starting on the week of February 4th.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:23 PM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > As we agreed some time ago I'd like to start on releasing 8.0. The branch is
> already created so we can start the process anytime now. Unless there are
> objections I'd like to start the feature freeze next week in order to build 
> the
> first candidate the week after.
> > We'll also need a 7.7 release but I think we can handle both with Alan so
> the question now is whether we are ok to start the release process or if there
> are any blockers left ;).
> >
> >
> > Le mar. 15 janv. 2019 à 11:35, Alan Woodward <romseyg...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> >>
> >> I’ve started to work through the various deprecations on the new master
> branch.  There are a lot of them, and I’m going to need some assistance for
> several of them, as it’s not entirely clear what to do.
> >>
> >> I’ll open two overarching issues in JIRA, one for lucene and one for Solr,
> with lists of the deprecations that need to be removed in each one.  I’ll 
> create
> a shared branch on gitbox to work against, and push the changes I’ve already
> done there.  We can then create individual JIRA issues for any changes that
> are more involved than just deleting code.
> >>
> >> All assistance gratefully received, particularly for the Solr deprecations
> where there’s a lot of code I’m unfamiliar with.
> >>
> >> On 8 Jan 2019, at 09:21, Alan Woodward <romseyg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think the current plan is to do a 7.7 release at the same time as 8.0, to
> handle any last-minute deprecations etc.  So let’s keep those jobs enabled
> for now.
> >>
> >> On 8 Jan 2019, at 09:10, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I will start and add the branch_8x jobs to Jenkins once I have some time
> later today.
> >>
> >> The question: How to proceed with branch_7x? Should we stop using it
> and release 7.6.x only (so we would use branch_7_6 only for bugfixes), or
> are we planning to one more Lucene/Solr 7.7? In the latter case I would keep
> the jenkins jobs enabled for a while.
> >>
> >> Uwe
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Uwe Schindler
> >> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> >> http://www.thetaphi.de
> >> eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
> >>
> >> From: Alan Woodward <romseyg...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 11:30 AM
> >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Lucene/Solr 8.0
> >>
> >> OK, Christmas caught up with me a bit… I’ve just created a branch for 8x
> from master, and am in the process of updating the master branch to version
> 9.  New commits that should be included in the 8.0 release should also be
> back-ported to branch_8x from master.
> >>
> >> This is not intended as a feature freeze, as I know there are still some
> things being worked on for 8.0; however, it should let us clean up master by
> removing as much deprecated code as possible, and give us an idea of any
> replacement work that needs to be done.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19 Dec 2018, at 15:13, David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> January.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 2:04 AM S G <sg.online.em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It would be nice to see Solr 8 in January soon as there is an enhancement
> on nested-documents we are waiting to get our hands on.
> >> Any idea when Solr 8 would be out ?
> >>
> >> Thx
> >> SG
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:34 PM David Smiley
> <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I see 10 JIRA issues matching this filter:   project in (SOLR, LUCENE) AND
> priority = Blocker and status = open and fixVersion = "master (8.0)"
> >>    click here:
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20in%20(SOLR%2C%20LU
> CENE)%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20and%20status%20%3D%2
> 0open%20and%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22master%20(8.0)%22%20
> >>
> >> Thru the end of the month, I intend to work on those issues not yet
> assigned.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:51 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:38 AM Alan Woodward
> <romseyg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Now that 7.6 is out of the door (thanks Nick!) we should think about
> cutting the 8.0 branch and moving master to 9.0.  I’ll volunteer to create the
> branch this week - say Wednesday?  Then we should have some time to
> clean up the master branch and uncover anything that still needs to be done
> on 8.0 before we start the release process next year.
> >> >
> >> > On 22 Oct 2018, at 18:12, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm a bit delayed, but +1 on the 7.6 and 8.0 plan from me too.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:18 AM Erick Erickson
> <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> +1, this gives us all a chance to prioritize getting the blockers out
> >> >> of the way in a careful manner.
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:56 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > +1 too. With this new perspective we could create the branch just
> after the 7.6 release and target the 8.0 release for January 2019 which gives
> almost 3 month to finish the blockers ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 23:56, David Smiley
> <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> +1 to a 7.6 —lots of stuff in there
> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 4:47 PM Nicholas Knize
> <nkn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> If we're planning to postpone cutting an 8.0 branch until a few
> weeks from now then I'd like to propose (and volunteer to RM) a 7.6 release
> targeted for late November or early December (following the typical 2 month
> release pattern). It feels like this might give a little breathing room for
> finishing up 8.0 blockers? And looking at the change log there appear to be a
> healthy list of features, bug fixes, and improvements to both Solr and Lucene
> that warrant a 7.6 release? Personally I wouldn't mind releasing the
> LatLonShape encoding changes in LUCENE-8521 and selective indexing work
> done in LUCENE-8496. Any objections or thoughts?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Nick
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:32 AM Đạt Cao Mạnh
> <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Thanks Cassandra and Jim,
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I created a blocker issue for Solr 8.0 SOLR-12883, currently in
> jira/http2 branch there are a draft-unmature implementation of SPNEGO
> authentication which enough to makes the test pass, this implementation will
> be removed when SOLR-12883 gets resolved . Therefore I don't see any
> problem on merging jira/http2 to master branch in the next week.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:33 AM jim ferenczi
> <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> > But if you're working with a different assumption - that just 
> >> >> >>>>> > the
> existence of the branch does not stop Dat from still merging his work and the
> work being included in 8.0 - then I agree, waiting for him to merge doesn't
> need to stop the creation of the branch.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Yes that's my reasoning. This issue is a blocker so we won't
> release without it but we can work on the branch in the meantime and let
> other people work on new features that are not targeted to 8.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 20:51, Cassandra Targett
> <casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> OK - I was making an assumption that the timeline for the first
> 8.0 RC would be ASAP after the branch is created.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> It's a common perception that making a branch freezes adding
> new features to the release, perhaps in an unofficial way (more of a courtesy
> rather than a rule). But if you're working with a different assumption - that
> just the existence of the branch does not stop Dat from still merging his work
> and the work being included in 8.0 - then I agree, waiting for him to merge
> doesn't need to stop the creation of the branch.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> If, however, once the branch is there people object to Dat
> merging his work because it's "too late", then the branch shouldn't be
> created yet because we want to really try to clear that blocker for 8.0.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Cassandra
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:13 PM jim ferenczi
> <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok thanks for answering.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> > - I think Solr needs a couple more weeks since the work Dat
> is doing isn't quite done yet.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> We can wait a few more weeks to create the branch but I
> don't think that one action (creating the branch) prevents the other (the
> work Dat is doing).
> >> >> >>>>>>> HTTP/2 is one of the blocker for the release but it can be done
> in master and backported to the appropriate branch as any other feature ?
> We just need an issue with the blocker label to ensure that
> >> >> >>>>>>> we don't miss it ;). Creating the branch early would also help
> in case you don't want to release all the work at once in 8.0.0.
> >> >> >>>>>>> Next week was just a proposal, what I meant was soon
> because we target a release in a few months.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 17:52, Cassandra Targett
> <casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> IMO next week is a bit too soon for the branch - I think Solr
> needs a couple more weeks since the work Dat is doing isn't quite done yet.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Solr needs the HTTP/2 work Dat has been doing, and he told
> me yesterday he feels it is nearly ready to be merged into master. However,
> it does require a new release of Jetty to Solr is able to retain Kerberos
> authentication support (Dat has been working with that team to help test the
> changes Jetty needs to support Kerberos with HTTP/2). They should get that
> release out soon, but we are dependent on them a little bit.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> He can hopefully reply with more details on his status and
> what else needs to be done.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Once Dat merges his work, IMO we should leave it in master
> for a little bit. While he has been beasting and testing with Jenkins as he 
> goes
> along, I think it would be good to have all the regular master builds work on
> it for a little bit also.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Of the other blockers, the only other large-ish one is to fully
> remove Trie* fields, which some of us also discussed yesterday and it
> seemed we concluded that Solr isn't really ready to do that. The performance
> issues with single value lookups are a major obstacle. It would be nice if
> someone with a bit more experience with that could comment in the issue
> (SOLR-12632) and/or unmark it as a blocker.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Cassandra
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM Erick Erickson
> <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> I find 9 open blockers for 8.0:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND
> %20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20AND%20status%20%3D%20OPEN
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> As David mentioned, many of the SOlr committers are at
> Activate, which
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> ends Thursday so feedback (and work) may be a bit
> delayed.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:11 AM David Smiley
> <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Hi,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Thanks for volunteering to do the 8.0 release Jim!
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Many of us are at the Activate Conference in Montreal.
> We had a committers meeting where we discussed some of the blockers.  I
> think only a couple items were raised.  I'll leave Dat to discuss the one on
> HTTP2.  On the Solr nested docs front, I articulated one and we mostly came
> to a decision on how to do it.  It's not "hard" just a matter of how to hook 
> in
> some functionality so that it's user-friendly.  I'll file an issue for this.
> Inexplicably I'm sheepish about marking issues "blocker" but I shouldn't be.
> I'll file that issue and look at another issue or two that ought to be 
> blockers.
> Nothing is "hard" or tons of work that is in my sphere of work.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > On the Lucene side, I will commit
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7875 RE MultiFields either
> late tonight or tomorrow when I have time.  It's ready to be committed; just
> sitting there.  It's a minor thing but important to make this change now
> before 8.0.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > I personally plan to spend more time on the upcoming
> weeks on a few of these 8.0 things.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > ~ David
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:21 AM jim ferenczi
> <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> We still have two blockers for the Lucene 8 release:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-
> 7075?jql=(project%3D%22Lucene%20-
> %20Core%22%20%20OR%20project%3DSOLR)%20AND%20priority%3DBlocke
> r%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> We're planning to work on these issues in the coming
> days, are there any other blockers (not in the list) on Solr side.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Now that Lucene 7.5 is released I'd like to create a
> Lucene 8 branch soon (next week for instance ? ). There are some work to do
> to make sure that all tests pass, add the new version...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I can take care of it if there are no objections. Creating
> the branch in advance would help to stabilize this version (people can
> continue to work on new features that are not targeted for 8.0) and
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> we can discuss the best date for the release when all
> blockers are resolved. What do you think ?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 11:32, Adrien Grand
> <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> Đạt, is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-
> 12639 the right issue for HTTP/2 support? Should we make it a blocker for
> 8.0?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 23:37, Adrien Grand
> <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>> For the record here is the JIRA query for blockers that
> Erick referred to: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-
> 12720?jql=(project%3D%22Lucene%20-
> %20Core%22%20%20OR%20project%3DSOLR)%20AND%20priority%3DBlocke
> r%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 10:36, jim ferenczi
> <jim.feren...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> Ok thanks Đạt and Erick. I'll follow the blockers on
> Jira.  Đạt do you have an issue opened for the HTTP/2 support ?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> Le ven. 31 août 2018 à 16:40, Erick Erickson
> <erickerick...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> There's also the issue of what to do as far as
> removing Trie* support.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I think there's a blocker JIRA.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> project = SOLR AND priority = Blocker AND
> resolution = Unresolved
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Shows 6 blockers
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:12 AM Đạt Cao Mạnh
> <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi Jim,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > I really want to introduce the support of HTTP/2
> into Solr 8.0 (currently cooked in jira/http2 branch). The changes of that
> branch are less than Star Burst effort and closer to be merged into master
> branch.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > Thanks!
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:55 PM jim ferenczi
> <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Hi all,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> I'd like to get some feedback regarding the
> upcoming Lucene/Solr 8 release. There are still some cleanups and docs to
> add on the Lucene side but it seems that all blockers are resolved.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> From a Solr perspective are there any important
> changes that need to be done or are we still good with the October target for
> the release ? Adrien mentioned the Star Burst effort some time ago, is it
> something that is planned for 8 ?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Jim
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 19:02, David Smiley
> <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Yes, that new BKD/Points based code is
> definitely something we want in 8 or 7.5 -- it's a big deal.  I think it 
> would also
> be awesome if we had highlighter that could use the Weight.matches() API --
> again for either 7.5 or 8.  I'm working on this on the UnifiedHighlighter 
> front
> and Alan from other aspects.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ~ David
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:51 PM Adrien Grand
> <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> I was hoping that we would release some bits
> of this new support for geo shapes in 7.5 already. We are already very close
> to being able to index points, lines and polygons and query for intersection
> with an envelope. It would be nice to add support for other relations (eg.
> disjoint) and queries (eg. polygon) but the current work looks already useful
> to me.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 17:00, Robert Muir
> <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> My only other suggestion is we may want to
> get Nick's shape stuff into
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the sandbox module at least for 8.0 so that it
> can be tested out. I
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> think it looks like that wouldn't delay any
> October target though?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Adrien
> Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > I'd like to revive this thread now that these
> new optimizations for
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > collection of top docs are more usable and
> enabled by default in
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > IndexSearcher
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8060). Any
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > feedback about starting to work towards
> releasing 8.0 and targeting October
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > 2018?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 09:31, Adrien Grand
> <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Hi Robert,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> I agree we need to make it more usable
> before 8.0. I would also like to
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> improve ReqOptSumScorer
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8204)
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> to leverage impacts so that queries that
> incorporate queries on feature
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> fields
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8197) in an optional
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> clause are also fast.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 03:06, Robert Muir
> <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> How can the end user actually use the
> biggest new feature: impacts and
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> BMW? As far as I can tell, the issue to
> actually implement the
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> necessary API changes
> (IndexSearcher/TopDocs/etc) is still open and
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> unresolved, although there are some
> interesting ideas on it. This
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> seems like a really big missing piece,
> without a proper API, the stuff
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> is not really usable. I also can't imagine a
> situation where the API
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> could be introduced in a followup minor
> release because it would be
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> too invasive.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Adrien
> Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Hi all,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > I would like to start discussing releasing
> Lucene/Solr 8.0. Lucene 8
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > already
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > has some good changes around
> scoring, notably cleanups to
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > similarities[1][2][3], indexing of
> impacts[4], and an implementation of
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Block-Max WAND[5] which, once
> combined, allow to run queries faster
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > when
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > total hit counts are not requested.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8116
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [2]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8020
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [3]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8007
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [4]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4198
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [5]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8135
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > In terms of bug fixes, there is also a
> bad relevancy bug[6] which is
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > only in
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > 8.0 because it required a breaking
> change[7] to be implemented.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [6]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8031
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [7]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8134
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > As usual, doing a new major release
> will also help age out old codecs,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > which
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > in-turn make maintenance easier: 8.0
> will no longer need to care about
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > the
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > fact that some codecs were initially
> implemented with a random-access
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > API
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > for doc values, that pre-7.0 indices
> encoded norms differently, or that
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > pre-6.2 indices could not record an
> index sort.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > I also expect that we will come up with
> ideas of things to do for 8.0
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > as we
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > feel that the next major is getting
> closer. In terms of planning, I was
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > thinking that we could target something
> like october 2018, which would
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > be
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > 12-13 months after 7.0 and 3-4 months
> from now.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > From a Solr perspective, the main
> change I'm aware of that would be
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > worth
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > releasing a new major is the Star Burst
> effort. Is it something we want
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > to
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > get in for 8.0?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Adrien
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> --
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Lucene/Solr Search Committer, Consultant,
> Developer, Author, Speaker
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
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> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Lucene/Solr Search Committer, Consultant, Developer,
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> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley | Book:
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> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP
> >> >> >>> Geospatial Software Guy  |  Elasticsearch
> >> >> >>> Apache Lucene Committer
> >> >> >>> nkn...@apache.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Lucene/Solr Search Committer, Consultant, Developer, Author,
> Speaker
> >> >> >> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley | Book:
> http://www.solrenterprisesearchserver.com
> >> >>
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> >> Adrien
> >>
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> >> --
> >> Lucene/Solr Search Committer (PMC), Developer, Author, Speaker
> >> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley | Book:
> http://www.solrenterprisesearchserver.com
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lucene/Solr Search Committer (PMC), Developer, Author, Speaker
> >> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley | Book:
> http://www.solrenterprisesearchserver.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> --
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