Releasing a new major is very challenging on its own, I'd rather not
call it a blocker and delay the release for it since this isn't a new
regression in 8.0: it looks like a problem that has affected Solr
since at least 6.3? I'm not familiar with the UI code at all, but
maybe this is something that could get fixed before we build a RC?




On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:06 PM Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to suggest that https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10211 be 
> promoted to block 8.0. I just got burned by it a second time.
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:05 PM Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
>>
>> Cool,
>>
>> I am working on giving my best release time guess as possible on the FOSDEM 
>> conference!
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>> -----
>> Uwe Schindler
>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>> http://www.thetaphi.de
>> eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:33 PM
>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Lucene/Solr 8.0
>> >
>> > +1 to release 7.7 and 8.0 in a row starting on the week of February 4th.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:23 PM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > As we agreed some time ago I'd like to start on releasing 8.0. The 
>> > > branch is
>> > already created so we can start the process anytime now. Unless there are
>> > objections I'd like to start the feature freeze next week in order to 
>> > build the
>> > first candidate the week after.
>> > > We'll also need a 7.7 release but I think we can handle both with Alan so
>> > the question now is whether we are ok to start the release process or if 
>> > there
>> > are any blockers left ;).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Le mar. 15 janv. 2019 à 11:35, Alan Woodward <romseyg...@gmail.com>
>> > a écrit :
>> > >>
>> > >> I’ve started to work through the various deprecations on the new master
>> > branch.  There are a lot of them, and I’m going to need some assistance for
>> > several of them, as it’s not entirely clear what to do.
>> > >>
>> > >> I’ll open two overarching issues in JIRA, one for lucene and one for 
>> > >> Solr,
>> > with lists of the deprecations that need to be removed in each one.  I’ll 
>> > create
>> > a shared branch on gitbox to work against, and push the changes I’ve 
>> > already
>> > done there.  We can then create individual JIRA issues for any changes that
>> > are more involved than just deleting code.
>> > >>
>> > >> All assistance gratefully received, particularly for the Solr 
>> > >> deprecations
>> > where there’s a lot of code I’m unfamiliar with.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 8 Jan 2019, at 09:21, Alan Woodward <romseyg...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I think the current plan is to do a 7.7 release at the same time as 
>> > >> 8.0, to
>> > handle any last-minute deprecations etc.  So let’s keep those jobs enabled
>> > for now.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 8 Jan 2019, at 09:10, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> I will start and add the branch_8x jobs to Jenkins once I have some time
>> > later today.
>> > >>
>> > >> The question: How to proceed with branch_7x? Should we stop using it
>> > and release 7.6.x only (so we would use branch_7_6 only for bugfixes), or
>> > are we planning to one more Lucene/Solr 7.7? In the latter case I would 
>> > keep
>> > the jenkins jobs enabled for a while.
>> > >>
>> > >> Uwe
>> > >>
>> > >> -----
>> > >> Uwe Schindler
>> > >> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>> > >> http://www.thetaphi.de
>> > >> eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
>> > >>
>> > >> From: Alan Woodward <romseyg...@gmail.com>
>> > >> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 11:30 AM
>> > >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> Subject: Re: Lucene/Solr 8.0
>> > >>
>> > >> OK, Christmas caught up with me a bit… I’ve just created a branch for 8x
>> > from master, and am in the process of updating the master branch to version
>> > 9.  New commits that should be included in the 8.0 release should also be
>> > back-ported to branch_8x from master.
>> > >>
>> > >> This is not intended as a feature freeze, as I know there are still some
>> > things being worked on for 8.0; however, it should let us clean up master 
>> > by
>> > removing as much deprecated code as possible, and give us an idea of any
>> > replacement work that needs to be done.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 19 Dec 2018, at 15:13, David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> January.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 2:04 AM S G <sg.online.em...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> It would be nice to see Solr 8 in January soon as there is an 
>> > >> enhancement
>> > on nested-documents we are waiting to get our hands on.
>> > >> Any idea when Solr 8 would be out ?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thx
>> > >> SG
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:34 PM David Smiley
>> > <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I see 10 JIRA issues matching this filter:   project in (SOLR, LUCENE) 
>> > >> AND
>> > priority = Blocker and status = open and fixVersion = "master (8.0)"
>> > >>    click here:
>> > >>
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20in%20(SOLR%2C%20LU
>> > CENE)%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20and%20status%20%3D%2
>> > 0open%20and%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22master%20(8.0)%22%20
>> > >>
>> > >> Thru the end of the month, I intend to work on those issues not yet
>> > assigned.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:51 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> +1
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:38 AM Alan Woodward
>> > <romseyg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hi all,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Now that 7.6 is out of the door (thanks Nick!) we should think about
>> > cutting the 8.0 branch and moving master to 9.0.  I’ll volunteer to create 
>> > the
>> > branch this week - say Wednesday?  Then we should have some time to
>> > clean up the master branch and uncover anything that still needs to be done
>> > on 8.0 before we start the release process next year.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 22 Oct 2018, at 18:12, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm a bit delayed, but +1 on the 7.6 and 8.0 plan from me too.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:18 AM Erick Erickson
>> > <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> +1, this gives us all a chance to prioritize getting the blockers out
>> > >> >> of the way in a careful manner.
>> > >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:56 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > +1 too. With this new perspective we could create the branch just
>> > after the 7.6 release and target the 8.0 release for January 2019 which 
>> > gives
>> > almost 3 month to finish the blockers ?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 23:56, David Smiley
>> > <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> +1 to a 7.6 —lots of stuff in there
>> > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 4:47 PM Nicholas Knize
>> > <nkn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> If we're planning to postpone cutting an 8.0 branch until a few
>> > weeks from now then I'd like to propose (and volunteer to RM) a 7.6 release
>> > targeted for late November or early December (following the typical 2 month
>> > release pattern). It feels like this might give a little breathing room for
>> > finishing up 8.0 blockers? And looking at the change log there appear to 
>> > be a
>> > healthy list of features, bug fixes, and improvements to both Solr and 
>> > Lucene
>> > that warrant a 7.6 release? Personally I wouldn't mind releasing the
>> > LatLonShape encoding changes in LUCENE-8521 and selective indexing work
>> > done in LUCENE-8496. Any objections or thoughts?
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> - Nick
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:32 AM Đạt Cao Mạnh
>> > <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>> Thanks Cassandra and Jim,
>> > >> >> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>> I created a blocker issue for Solr 8.0 SOLR-12883, currently in
>> > jira/http2 branch there are a draft-unmature implementation of SPNEGO
>> > authentication which enough to makes the test pass, this implementation 
>> > will
>> > be removed when SOLR-12883 gets resolved . Therefore I don't see any
>> > problem on merging jira/http2 to master branch in the next week.
>> > >> >> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:33 AM jim ferenczi
>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>> > But if you're working with a different assumption - that 
>> > >> >> >>>>> > just the
>> > existence of the branch does not stop Dat from still merging his work and 
>> > the
>> > work being included in 8.0 - then I agree, waiting for him to merge doesn't
>> > need to stop the creation of the branch.
>> > >> >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>> Yes that's my reasoning. This issue is a blocker so we won't
>> > release without it but we can work on the branch in the meantime and let
>> > other people work on new features that are not targeted to 8.
>> > >> >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 20:51, Cassandra Targett
>> > <casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>> OK - I was making an assumption that the timeline for the 
>> > >> >> >>>>>> first
>> > 8.0 RC would be ASAP after the branch is created.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>> It's a common perception that making a branch freezes adding
>> > new features to the release, perhaps in an unofficial way (more of a 
>> > courtesy
>> > rather than a rule). But if you're working with a different assumption - 
>> > that
>> > just the existence of the branch does not stop Dat from still merging his 
>> > work
>> > and the work being included in 8.0 - then I agree, waiting for him to merge
>> > doesn't need to stop the creation of the branch.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>> If, however, once the branch is there people object to Dat
>> > merging his work because it's "too late", then the branch shouldn't be
>> > created yet because we want to really try to clear that blocker for 8.0.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>> Cassandra
>> > >> >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:13 PM jim ferenczi
>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> Ok thanks for answering.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> > - I think Solr needs a couple more weeks since the work Dat
>> > is doing isn't quite done yet.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> We can wait a few more weeks to create the branch but I
>> > don't think that one action (creating the branch) prevents the other (the
>> > work Dat is doing).
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> HTTP/2 is one of the blocker for the release but it can be 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> done
>> > in master and backported to the appropriate branch as any other feature ?
>> > We just need an issue with the blocker label to ensure that
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> we don't miss it ;). Creating the branch early would also 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> help
>> > in case you don't want to release all the work at once in 8.0.0.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> Next week was just a proposal, what I meant was soon
>> > because we target a release in a few months.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 17:52, Cassandra Targett
>> > <casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> IMO next week is a bit too soon for the branch - I think 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Solr
>> > needs a couple more weeks since the work Dat is doing isn't quite done yet.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Solr needs the HTTP/2 work Dat has been doing, and he told
>> > me yesterday he feels it is nearly ready to be merged into master. However,
>> > it does require a new release of Jetty to Solr is able to retain Kerberos
>> > authentication support (Dat has been working with that team to help test 
>> > the
>> > changes Jetty needs to support Kerberos with HTTP/2). They should get that
>> > release out soon, but we are dependent on them a little bit.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> He can hopefully reply with more details on his status and
>> > what else needs to be done.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Once Dat merges his work, IMO we should leave it in master
>> > for a little bit. While he has been beasting and testing with Jenkins as 
>> > he goes
>> > along, I think it would be good to have all the regular master builds work 
>> > on
>> > it for a little bit also.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Of the other blockers, the only other large-ish one is to 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> fully
>> > remove Trie* fields, which some of us also discussed yesterday and it
>> > seemed we concluded that Solr isn't really ready to do that. The 
>> > performance
>> > issues with single value lookups are a major obstacle. It would be nice if
>> > someone with a bit more experience with that could comment in the issue
>> > (SOLR-12632) and/or unmark it as a blocker.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Cassandra
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM Erick Erickson
>> > <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> I find 9 open blockers for 8.0:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND
>> > %20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20AND%20status%20%3D%20OPEN
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> As David mentioned, many of the SOlr committers are at
>> > Activate, which
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> ends Thursday so feedback (and work) may be a bit
>> > delayed.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:11 AM David Smiley
>> > <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Thanks for volunteering to do the 8.0 release Jim!
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Many of us are at the Activate Conference in Montreal.
>> > We had a committers meeting where we discussed some of the blockers.  I
>> > think only a couple items were raised.  I'll leave Dat to discuss the one 
>> > on
>> > HTTP2.  On the Solr nested docs front, I articulated one and we mostly came
>> > to a decision on how to do it.  It's not "hard" just a matter of how to 
>> > hook in
>> > some functionality so that it's user-friendly.  I'll file an issue for 
>> > this.
>> > Inexplicably I'm sheepish about marking issues "blocker" but I shouldn't 
>> > be.
>> > I'll file that issue and look at another issue or two that ought to be 
>> > blockers.
>> > Nothing is "hard" or tons of work that is in my sphere of work.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > On the Lucene side, I will commit
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7875 RE MultiFields either
>> > late tonight or tomorrow when I have time.  It's ready to be committed; 
>> > just
>> > sitting there.  It's a minor thing but important to make this change now
>> > before 8.0.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > I personally plan to spend more time on the upcoming
>> > weeks on a few of these 8.0 things.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > ~ David
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:21 AM jim ferenczi
>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> We still have two blockers for the Lucene 8 release:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-
>> > 7075?jql=(project%3D%22Lucene%20-
>> > %20Core%22%20%20OR%20project%3DSOLR)%20AND%20priority%3DBlocke
>> > r%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> We're planning to work on these issues in the coming
>> > days, are there any other blockers (not in the list) on Solr side.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Now that Lucene 7.5 is released I'd like to create a
>> > Lucene 8 branch soon (next week for instance ? ). There are some work to do
>> > to make sure that all tests pass, add the new version...
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I can take care of it if there are no objections. 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Creating
>> > the branch in advance would help to stabilize this version (people can
>> > continue to work on new features that are not targeted for 8.0) and
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> we can discuss the best date for the release when all
>> > blockers are resolved. What do you think ?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 11:32, Adrien Grand
>> > <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> Đạt, is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-
>> > 12639 the right issue for HTTP/2 support? Should we make it a blocker for
>> > 8.0?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 23:37, Adrien Grand
>> > <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>> For the record here is the JIRA query for blockers 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>> that
>> > Erick referred to: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-
>> > 12720?jql=(project%3D%22Lucene%20-
>> > %20Core%22%20%20OR%20project%3DSOLR)%20AND%20priority%3DBlocke
>> > r%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 10:36, jim ferenczi
>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> Ok thanks Đạt and Erick. I'll follow the blockers on
>> > Jira.  Đạt do you have an issue opened for the HTTP/2 support ?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> Le ven. 31 août 2018 à 16:40, Erick Erickson
>> > <erickerick...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> There's also the issue of what to do as far as
>> > removing Trie* support.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I think there's a blocker JIRA.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> project = SOLR AND priority = Blocker AND
>> > resolution = Unresolved
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Shows 6 blockers
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:12 AM Đạt Cao Mạnh
>> > <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi Jim,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > I really want to introduce the support of HTTP/2
>> > into Solr 8.0 (currently cooked in jira/http2 branch). The changes of that
>> > branch are less than Star Burst effort and closer to be merged into master
>> > branch.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > Thanks!
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:55 PM jim ferenczi
>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Hi all,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> I'd like to get some feedback regarding the
>> > upcoming Lucene/Solr 8 release. There are still some cleanups and docs to
>> > add on the Lucene side but it seems that all blockers are resolved.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> From a Solr perspective are there any important
>> > changes that need to be done or are we still good with the October target 
>> > for
>> > the release ? Adrien mentioned the Star Burst effort some time ago, is it
>> > something that is planned for 8 ?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Cheers,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Jim
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 19:02, David Smiley
>> > <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Yes, that new BKD/Points based code is
>> > definitely something we want in 8 or 7.5 -- it's a big deal.  I think it 
>> > would also
>> > be awesome if we had highlighter that could use the Weight.matches() API --
>> > again for either 7.5 or 8.  I'm working on this on the UnifiedHighlighter 
>> > front
>> > and Alan from other aspects.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ~ David
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:51 PM Adrien Grand
>> > <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> I was hoping that we would release some bits
>> > of this new support for geo shapes in 7.5 already. We are already very 
>> > close
>> > to being able to index points, lines and polygons and query for 
>> > intersection
>> > with an envelope. It would be nice to add support for other relations (eg.
>> > disjoint) and queries (eg. polygon) but the current work looks already 
>> > useful
>> > to me.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 17:00, Robert Muir
>> > <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> My only other suggestion is we may want to
>> > get Nick's shape stuff into
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the sandbox module at least for 8.0 so that it
>> > can be tested out. I
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> think it looks like that wouldn't delay any
>> > October target though?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Adrien
>> > Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > I'd like to revive this thread now that 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > these
>> > new optimizations for
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > collection of top docs are more usable and
>> > enabled by default in
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > IndexSearcher
>> > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8060). Any
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > feedback about starting to work towards
>> > releasing 8.0 and targeting October
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > 2018?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 09:31, Adrien Grand
>> > <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Hi Robert,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> I agree we need to make it more usable
>> > before 8.0. I would also like to
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> improve ReqOptSumScorer
>> > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8204)
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> to leverage impacts so that queries that
>> > incorporate queries on feature
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> fields
>> > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8197) in an optional
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> clause are also fast.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 03:06, Robert Muir
>> > <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> How can the end user actually use the
>> > biggest new feature: impacts and
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> BMW? As far as I can tell, the issue to
>> > actually implement the
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> necessary API changes
>> > (IndexSearcher/TopDocs/etc) is still open and
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> unresolved, although there are some
>> > interesting ideas on it. This
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> seems like a really big missing piece,
>> > without a proper API, the stuff
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> is not really usable. I also can't 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> imagine a
>> > situation where the API
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> could be introduced in a followup minor
>> > release because it would be
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> too invasive.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Adrien
>> > Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Hi all,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > I would like to start discussing 
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > releasing
>> > Lucene/Solr 8.0. Lucene 8
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > already
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > has some good changes around
>> > scoring, notably cleanups to
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > similarities[1][2][3], indexing of
>> > impacts[4], and an implementation of
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Block-Max WAND[5] which, once
>> > combined, allow to run queries faster
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > when
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > total hit counts are not requested.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [1]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8116
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [2]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8020
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [3]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8007
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [4]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4198
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [5]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8135
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > In terms of bug fixes, there is also a
>> > bad relevancy bug[6] which is
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > only in
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > 8.0 because it required a breaking
>> > change[7] to be implemented.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [6]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8031
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [7]
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8134
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > As usual, doing a new major release
>> > will also help age out old codecs,
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > which
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > in-turn make maintenance easier: 8.0
>> > will no longer need to care about
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > the
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > fact that some codecs were initially
>> > implemented with a random-access
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > API
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > for doc values, that pre-7.0 indices
>> > encoded norms differently, or that
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > pre-6.2 indices could not record an
>> > index sort.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > I also expect that we will come up with
>> > ideas of things to do for 8.0
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > as we
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > feel that the next major is getting
>> > closer. In terms of planning, I was
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > thinking that we could target something
>> > like october 2018, which would
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > be
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > 12-13 months after 7.0 and 3-4 months
>> > from now.
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > From a Solr perspective, the main
>> > change I'm aware of that would be
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > worth
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > releasing a new major is the Star Burst
>> > effort. Is it something we want
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > to
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > get in for 8.0?
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Adrien
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------
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>> > >> >> >>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP
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>> > >> >> >>> nkn...@apache.org
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> --
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