Hi Cassandra,

Apologies this took so long -- I wasn't familiar with these
site-generation tools and the whole ecosystem is rather... fragile :)
After a few attempts at using gradle plugins I eventually leaned
towards using asciidoctor and jekyll explicitly (so that we know which
versions are being used and don't have to rely on dependencies).

I got bare bone html checking working, PDF generation working and site
generation working although the final link check currently fail for me
with a bunch of errors. This works for me on Windows... on Linux I get
site-generation generate a strange error from within jekyll:

  Conversion error: Jekyll::AsciiDoc::Converter encountered an error
while converting 'about-filters.adoc':
                    Bad file descriptor - /usr/bin/python2

I could install python but I don't see why it'd need it. Perhaps there
is something in the docs that would avoid using python altogether but
I haven't had the time to look into it.

Please feel free to check out the jira/SOLR-13452_gradle_7_refguide
branch and try to run:

./gradlew -p solr/solr-ref-guide buildPdf buildSite

There is a lot of room for improvement -- from property substitution,
through how the "tools" are handled at the moment to task naming but I
left this for the future. The initial step would be probably to get
the site generation running on Linux/ Macs but I'd gladly hand it over
back to you -- I can help with Gradle but a the rest of those tools
are a mistery to me.

Dawid

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:53 PM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> No problem. I will get it to work entirely, but not before next week - I am 
> away for the weekend.
>
> Dawid
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 16:17 Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dawid for working on this! I’ve been a bit swamped the last couple of 
>> days but will take a look today at what you’ve been able to do so far and 
>> see where we might need to go from here.
>>
>> Cassandra
>> On Sep 26, 2019, 7:25 AM -0500, Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com>, wrote:
>>
>> I agree. Although I also understand the concern of trying to merge the
>> changes while we're in the transition period... it'd be hell. I'd say
>> move as much stuff as possible with the current folder structure (and
>> ignore what cannot be ported easily) then switch as soon as possible
>> to gradle and hack the old cruft with a chainsaw...
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:13 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Of course I’ll completely defer to Dawid and Mark (well and anybody else 
>> actually, you know, doing _work_), but just can’t resist chiming in ;).
>>
>> My vote would be to “do it the Gradle way”. Yes, it’s a PITA to learn new 
>> stuff and I won’t like it. Tough. I see no reason to carry a bunch of cruft 
>> around because “that the way we always did it”.
>>
>> If we lose functionality, that’s a different discussion, starting with “do 
>> we need that functionality". But jumping through hoops and having to 
>> maintain that awkwardness forever going forward just because we forced the 
>> Ant structure on Gradle strikes me as a poor trade off.
>>
>> That said, I’m not doing the work so I really have no vote. But don’t strain 
>> to do it the old way on my account ;)
>>
>> Erick
>>
>> P.S. Thanks Dawid for jumping in!
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 3:57 AM, Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I pushed it in to Lucene repo (it's on Cassandra's refguide branch
>> anyway, so shouldn't interfere with anything else); seems like it's in
>> better shape than previous code anyway (those questions I asked about
>> the nature of the gradle port still hold though).
>>
>> I got as far as building initial bare-bones HTML.
>>
>> .\gradlew -p solr\solr-ref-guide clean bareBonesHtmlValidation
>>
>> I don't know anything about the pipeline involved (asciidoctor, etc.)
>> so it's very likely some attributes will have to be corrected later
>> on.
>>
>> Dawid
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:14 PM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I looked at the solr ref guide build and started converting it to
>> Gradle but have a question to Mark (because he coordinates the
>> effort).
>>
>> What immediately jumps into face is the decision problem -- do we want
>> to emulate what ant does at the moment or do we want to clean it up
>> (breaking file/ folder structure and causing incompatibility with ant
>> build).
>>
>> I went the "compatible" way and started porting ant tasks but it's
>> quite awkward. For example -- there are template properties that refer
>> to ivy version properties... we could emulate/ compute these but it's
>> a pain. The way the module is currently structured is also awkward -
>> it'd be more natural to have a separate java project with the "tools"
>> required to compile extra stuff and just reference it from the manual
>> build (and this would be a plain module, not a java module). This
>> would limit the need for customizing source sets, classpaths, etc.
>>
>> My few initial tasks syncing sources, setting up infrastructure to
>> filter templates and compiling the required tools are here:
>> https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/compare/jira/SOLR-13452_gradle_7_refguide...dweiss:jira/SOLR-13452_gradle_7_refguide?expand=1
>>
>> I'll stop and wait for feedback (especially on the ivy versions issue)
>> before I resume.
>>
>> Dawid
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:20 PM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Never mind, I've got it.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 7:59 AM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Cassandra,
>>
>> I’m more than happy to share more details our current build so we can 
>> replicate some of the above steps, but I’m stuck without a lot more basic 
>> Gradle skills that I don’t have time to acquire with day-job/personal life 
>> commitments. I put it into a separate branch so we could iterate a little 
>> easier, can anyone help?
>>
>>
>> Where is this branch you made changes on? If you can point me at the
>> corresponding ant code I'll try to help you out.
>>
>> Dawid
>>
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